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speedoom

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why cant connect to all available seeders?

why i cant connect to all the available seeders....

at the moment,im downloading a 500mb file....with
"Seeds: 17 of 40 connected (38 in swarm)" and "Peers: 32 of 60 connected (51 in swarm)"

why cant 40 of 40 connected or atleast 30 for seeds??

DreadWingKnight

I never claimed to be nice.

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

You're not supposed to connect to everyone.
Connecting to everyone will just slow you down.

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Saribro

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Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

It's also possible that not all seeds are connectable.
In any case, with those numbers, there's no point in worrying.

1c3d0g

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Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

I just don't understand why people want to connect to everyone...all you have to look at is your availability, if it's > 1.000 then you can still finish your download, even if there are no seeds present.

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incognito

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Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

curiosity? slow dl's? Personally I am curious about that, although even if i knew the answer it probably wouldn't change my dl speeds.

Either way if you dont like people asking questions maybe you should go find an island and start your own little communist country.

Firon

Administrator

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

Also, seeds have limited connection slots, and can't connect to everyone.

Klaus_1250

Member

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

It is speed. People think, the more people I'm connected to, the faster downloading gets. Especially in relation to seeders, since you don't need to upload to them. Also, the more seeds and peers you connect to, the more chance you have in running into a very fast one. I'm always hoping to run into some swedish seeders, haven't seen many other which can up 100-200KB/s.

Ultima

Administrator

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

- There's overhead from having too many connections
- Connections are cycled if faster seeds/peers are found -- µTorrent' doesn't just connect and leave it at that
- Not uploading to seeds doesn't make you download faster

Last edited by Ultima (2006-03-26 08:00:21)

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Kazuaki Shimazaki

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Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

Honestly, though, when there are like only 2 seeds and 8 peers detected (via DHT, because the tracker is down again) on a torrent, and you are connected to only two of the peers (none of the seeds), and you are downloading at all of 2 kilobytes per second, it is hard to sell yourself into the idea that being able to connect to all those others won't help somehow...

Yes, this has happened to me, many, many times...

As for the cycling, I never quite caught uT doing that. I tend to see it connect, get half its connections rejected, then the occasional remote connection...

Firon

Administrator

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

A lot of the time it can't connect because they're unconnectable. It's not like it avoids connecting to people on small swarms.

Kazuaki Shimazaki

Member

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

I know it doesn't avoid it, but maybe if the number of people connected is really small, maybe a new feature marked "Minimum number of connections per torrent" will be nice. Make a hard limit so it can't be more than say half or even a third of your "maximum connections per torrent". Hell, even a fifth would be worth shooting for (about 20 for me).

I'm not saying do BitComet's 10 Cycles per Second thing, but perhaps a few times every hour (which shouldn't be that much of a bother), say when the DHT system gets updated, and only if the number of connections you have is pathetically small. Who knows, maybe third knock's the charm.

Ultima

Administrator

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

If there's that small number of people connected to the swarm, then µTorrent will already try to connect to all of them. If µTorrent isn't successful, then as Firon said, they're probably unconnectable for whatever reason (slots taken, badly configured, whatever). You can't enforce a hard minimum limit for connections because of unconnectability, no matter how small the swarm is.

Last edited by Ultima (2006-03-27 18:03:39)

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Vectorferret

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Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

It should be "Desired Connections Per Torrent" then. It would be nice to try a recconect after a certain length of time, as some cases where establishing the connection fails are temporary.

Firon

Administrator

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

It does retry. And if you turn on the debug column, you can see the number of half-open connections.

Ultima

Administrator

Re: why cant connect to all available seeders?

Meh desired is useless, if you ask me. µTorrent will try to max out its available connections anyway, which is probably most people's desired value.

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