Optimus Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 ...seems to have kicked in just today. After seeing a few posts about it on broadbandreports, it seems my uploads are non existent now, *even with encryption forced*. Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_cruiser Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Rgoers is also doing this now too:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game90 Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 i wonder how they do that... detecting bittorrent DHT and tracker traffic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 My guess is that they're detecting some kind of massive connection surge on a single port from your IP, and throttling it. Who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I knew this would happen sooner or later, time to step up the war onto the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 See if they cripple the connection if you're using only 2-4 half-open slots, 20 global connections, and 15 per torrent, with 2 torrents max, and 2-4 upload slots. It may simply be connection-based, as usually BitTorrent traffic has 50+ if not 100's of connections.Make sure you're not uploading more than HALF your total upload speed max! You may have to go as low as 5 KB/sec to prevent the speed throttling kicking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 One of the ways that Rogers is hitting torrent traffic is dropping the tracker requests. So some type of proxy or other method of secure connection is needed to talk to the tracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Posted May 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I can upload fine to an IP on Cogeco's network and a couple other weird IPs, but that's about it. All the rest just drop off and die, so I'm uploading between 0 and 3KB/sec most of the time.edit: Switeck, I tried.. nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikky Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 It a bit of a long shot maybe, but ring them up and tell them to stop interferring with bit torrent. As an argument try saying that big companies use torrents for selling their goods.http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=9552http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4753435.stm You could even try emailing Warner Bros and letting them know that all your ISP's customers will not be able to buy Warner Bros goods and try to get them to speak to your ISP. I wish you luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thanks for the tip. I'll be speaking with my wallet and switching to DSL. Cogeco can rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 i am on rogers to, after may 1st cant do nothing. even port 21 for ftp. nothing works not even encryption either all current methods dont work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Try downloading a public torrnet WITHOUT the tracker. I mean, load the torrent in stopped mode, remove all trackers, enable DHT, force encryption both ways, and start it up.If it's unthrottled now, the ISP probably digs out the peers IPs out of the tracker communication data. If still throttled - then it's either generic algorithm, for example throttling down any non-http traffic if multiple connections are being made, or it peeks at the DHT traffic as well.To check if the DHT traffic being monitored you may try finding an SSL tracker and downloading a torrent from it, without DHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Inf, I gave it a shot exactly as you described... the uploads are still throttling back and dying within a few seconds. Bastards.edit: haven't tried from an SSL tracker, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoltrix2000 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Oh my god... I got rogers and my naighbour got Execulink...I did a test, with rogers i download at like 10kb max, with execulink i download at 30kb+.... Same nic and on top of all that Execulink is the 2mbits per sec... rogers is suppose to be 5mbits per sec... I'm sooo cancelling rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoltrix2000 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I found out another thing... maybe it's and very possible that the "Net Neutrality" is in effect.... http://www.savetheinternet.com/, this is a new thing also which ISPs are paid to control or stop certain things on the net... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuaki Shimazaki Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Actually, I think that Net Neutrality is the thing that insists BT should be allowed through like HTTP, and the ISPs are fighting against Net Neutrality, so they can be cheap. Soon, our FTP DLs would be restricted in the name of "fairness to other users" if we let these little (rather big) turds continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 As for the blocking of encryption, forced with legacy unchecked, a RANDOM port (or common service ports, not 1720!), turning off DHT, and using very low amounts of connections (<50, maybe less), might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Posted May 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Tried it all, Firon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Guess we just need to make PE v2 and masquerade as HTTP connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoltrix2000 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Oh hey fellas, i tried port 1720, and now i'm downloading +300kbits per sec... what's up with port 1720? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
µtorrent-Guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 its their unfiltered VoIP port.If you can use it than fine for U. If you use it to excessive then the alarm bells will ring and they will block that also somehow! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Actually that port is throttled too. They just don't seem to pull the amount of crap with that port as they do with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 On Cogeco at least, port 1720 was throttled a few months ago.. after that, encryption did the trick.. now nothing works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 On Cogeco at least, port 1720 was throttled a few months ago.. after that, encryption did the trick.. now nothing works.same thing. try this out secureix.com i am about to try it now. everyone on dslreports says it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 secureIX doesnt work for me. after i register it cant connect. god dam cable companies. figure out a way to get around this throttling. And change the name of your thread to rogers and cogeco so we get more people's attention on this topic. post in azerues and bit comet forums to. lets beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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