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...seems to have kicked in just today. After seeing a few posts about it on broadbandreports, it seems my uploads are non existent now, *even with encryption forced*. Sucks. 
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Rgoers is also doing this now too:(
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i wonder how they do that... detecting bittorrent DHT and tracker traffic?
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My guess is that they're detecting some kind of massive connection surge on a single port from your IP, and throttling it. Who knows...
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I knew this would happen sooner or later, time to step up the war onto the next level.
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See if they cripple the connection if you're using only 2-4 half-open slots, 20 global connections, and 15 per torrent, with 2 torrents max, and 2-4 upload slots. It may simply be connection-based, as usually BitTorrent traffic has 50+ if not 100's of connections.
Make sure you're not uploading more than HALF your total upload speed max! You may have to go as low as 5 KB/sec to prevent the speed throttling kicking in.
Last edited by Switeck (2006-05-12 23:18:42)
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One of the ways that Rogers is hitting torrent traffic is dropping the tracker requests. So some type of proxy or other method of secure connection is needed to talk to the tracker.
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I can upload fine to an IP on Cogeco's network and a couple other weird IPs, but that's about it. All the rest just drop off and die, so I'm uploading between 0 and 3KB/sec most of the time.
edit: Switeck, I tried.. nothing
Last edited by Optimus (2006-05-13 12:01:53)
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It a bit of a long shot maybe, but ring them up and tell them to stop interferring with bit torrent. As an argument try saying that big companies use torrents for selling their goods.
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=9552
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4753435.stm
You could even try emailing Warner Bros and letting them know that all your ISP's customers will not be able to buy Warner Bros goods and try to get them to speak to your ISP.
I wish you luck.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll be speaking with my wallet and switching to DSL. Cogeco can rot.
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i am on rogers to, after may 1st cant do nothing. even port 21 for ftp. nothing works not even encryption either all current methods dont work.
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Try downloading a public torrnet WITHOUT the tracker. I mean, load the torrent in stopped mode, remove all trackers, enable DHT, force encryption both ways, and start it up.
If it's unthrottled now, the ISP probably digs out the peers IPs out of the tracker communication data. If still throttled - then it's either generic algorithm, for example throttling down any non-http traffic if multiple connections are being made, or it peeks at the DHT traffic as well.
To check if the DHT traffic being monitored you may try finding an SSL tracker and downloading a torrent from it, without DHT.
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Inf, I gave it a shot exactly as you described... the uploads are still throttling back and dying within a few seconds. Bastards.
edit: haven't tried from an SSL tracker, yet.
Last edited by Optimus (2006-05-18 15:24:14)
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Oh my god... I got rogers and my naighbour got Execulink...
I did a test, with rogers i download at like 10kb max, with execulink i download at 30kb+.... Same nic and on top of all that Execulink is the 2mbits per sec... rogers is suppose to be 5mbits per sec... I'm sooo cancelling rogers.
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I found out another thing... maybe it's and very possible that the "Net Neutrality" is in effect.... http://www.savetheinternet.com/, this is a new thing also which ISPs are paid to control or stop certain things on the net...
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Actually, I think that Net Neutrality is the thing that insists BT should be allowed through like HTTP, and the ISPs are fighting against Net Neutrality, so they can be cheap. Soon, our FTP DLs would be restricted in the name of "fairness to other users" if we let these little (rather big) turds continue.
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As for the blocking of encryption, forced with legacy unchecked, a RANDOM port (or common service ports, not 1720!), turning off DHT, and using very low amounts of connections (<50, maybe less), might help.
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Tried it all, Firon.
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Guess we just need to make PE v2 and masquerade as HTTP connections. 
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Oh hey fellas, i tried port 1720, and now i'm downloading +300kbits per sec... what's up with port 1720?
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its their unfiltered VoIP port.
If you can use it than fine for U. If you use it to excessive then the alarm bells will ring and they will block that also somehow! ;-)
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Actually that port is throttled too. They just don't seem to pull the amount of crap with that port as they do with others.
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On Cogeco at least, port 1720 was throttled a few months ago.. after that, encryption did the trick.. now nothing works.
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Optimus wrote:
On Cogeco at least, port 1720 was throttled a few months ago.. after that, encryption did the trick.. now nothing works.
same thing. try this out secureix.com i am about to try it now. everyone on dslreports says it works.
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secureIX doesnt work for me. after i register it cant connect. god dam cable companies. figure out a way to get around this throttling. And change the name of your thread to rogers and cogeco so we get more people's attention on this topic. post in azerues and bit comet forums to. lets beat them.
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