HyperXX Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 i have been using 1720 on rogers for a long time with encrption enabled and it worked great. i could always get over 250 kb/s and always uploaded at my max. now i can barely break 10 kb/s. they have done something new. i have no option except 1.5 mbs DSL which isnt good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 maybe they limit people who do encrypted traffic and BT handshakes at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 is there any solution to this? perhaps utorrent 1.6 can crash those dam ellacoya boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hm, try lowering the max connections. And this has been reported here already.Edit: Eh, just realized you posted there already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 use a random port too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Use a port above 30,000.Set Encryption to "forced" & uncheck "allow incoming legacy connections."Rodger's newer dirty trick is dropping tracker connections. So you need some type of proxy or secure connection for tracker communication, let the encryption handle connections to other peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 none of this stuff works. can't even connect to secureix.com. DOS their throtling devices. someone who knows how should try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Whats needed is some type of secure tracker connection, IPSec would be cool. But I don't know enough about programming yet to be a judge.Firon had a good idea as well:Guess we just need to make PE v2 and masquerade as HTTP connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 so are you saying have http tracker encrypted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 well here are the assholes who make the product.http://www.ellacoya.comhere is the little box i want to strap some TNT to.http://www.ellacoya.com/products/e30.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Swordsman Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Use a port above 30,000.Set Encryption to "forced" & uncheck "allow incoming legacy connections."Rodger's newer dirty trick is dropping tracker connections. So you need some type of proxy or secure connection for tracker communication, let the encryption handle connections to other peers.I'm sorry, but I'm really a noob and I'm curious, who/what is Rodger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 perhaps we understand how the box works we understand how to break it/bypass it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 so are you saying have http tracker encrypted?Yes, some users of Rodgers have been able to restore their speeds using a secure proxy for tracker communications.I'm sorry, but I'm really a noob and I'm curious, who/what is Rodger?They're a Canadian ISP that for some reason is trying to kill all p2p traffic. To them it doesn't matter if it's legal or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themoleman Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 I'm on Rogers and I've noticed that if I put my upload to the max, they kill the connection every 10 mins on average and then I have to go into my settings and change the port each time. My max upload on my cable is 50kb and all I did was lower the max upload to 40kb and now it barely disconnects. Only 2 or 3 times in the past week. Now I can browse and upload.I also lowered max connections from 400 to 180, peers per torrent to 90 and max active torrents to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 i am really pissed of about this, i wanna send mr t over to rogers office and let him kick some ass and break that throttling stuff.what can we do? i cant belive the blocked encryption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathma Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I also have Rogers and hate it totally. If it were up to me I would switch but my parents work pays for Rogers so I get it free. Anywho, 1720 appears to be a popular port but to my knowledge it's not as fast as it used to be, Rogers did something. Right now i'm using 1755 and I believe it's better. Could somebody please go into detail about using a proxy for tracker communications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Well, considering that proxying tracker communications effectively breaks incoming connections, why would you want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted May 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 perhaps i see a utorrent 1.6 down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00 Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Did anyone try to sue Rogers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Might be possible to sue them under breech of contract, that being you're paying them for services (internet access) that is not being provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINMAN Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 there are many legit uses for BT so why not call and complain that you cannot download those NASA images or a linux ISO because they are blocking it and just keep bitching on them. If enough people do it they may stop. Or just switch to Sympatico or simular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathma Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 I would love to sue them but my moms work provides us and her company with Rogers for free, so that wouldn't work out well. I hope somebody sues Rogers though, they are the devil. Edit: On the topic of Rogers being a bitch; I have a red bubble on Utorrent and my port is forwarded properly, I was downloading at 400kbps yesterday and have changed nothing since then. Under network settings, I have protocol encryption set to forced, and "allow incoming legacy connections" unchecked. Is this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 @HyperXX: Sure, there's a 1.6 down the road, but a workaround for this issue isn't on the todo list, AFAIK, so it wouldn't help anyway ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoJo Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 I doubt Rogers can throttle Encrypted BT, without throttling all encrypted connections or limiting the amount of connections one can make. Hyper, calm down and see this through as I'm sure either scenario wouldn't fly with there Business customers. My prediction is that they are doing this as a temporary solution, and to a very limited amount of people as the outcry has not been far reaching as last time was. Also last I checked DOS'ing is forbidden in the eua you signed when becoming a Rogers user. Finally, for your sake make sure it isn't an issue with your computer like portforwarding, or a firewall, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperXX Posted June 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 well they turned it off june 1st and turned it back on. they are throttling encryptes stuff. if any designers want me to do some tests for them i can if they have any ideas of how to get around traffic shaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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