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AresXP

Member

WebUI + Opera 9

They hardly work together. I don't know about Opera 8.53 but I know for sure it doesn't work on Opera 9. It logs on but you can hardly click anywhere.

Firon

Administrator

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

opera's got various bugs, and so does IE, and directrix hasn't bothered making workarounds for either of them

AresXP

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Obviously Opera 9 has quirks, it's still a TP.

At least it passes the Acid2 test... whilst Firefox and IE fail it miserably.

Firon

Administrator

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Meh, that doesn't mean much when everything else is still buggy.
0.101 appears to be working on Opera 9 anyway

1c3d0g

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

The Acid test is crap. Doesn't mean squat if a browser passes it or not, since it uses non-standard, non-W3C compliant tags to render the image. At least, so I heard.

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StoicJester

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

the test is actually valid html 4.1, although they haven't declared their encoding like they should.  the css is invalid, but that's done purposely, to see if browsers handle bad coding properly.  seems like you could make that into whatever you want, though.  i'm not sure there's a w3c standard for handling bad coding. i think that's a browser by browser decision, so that would mean the acid2 people are trying to set their own standards.

Last edited by StoicJester (2006-04-03 17:15:51)

1c3d0g

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

You forgot to test their CSS...11 errors and 29 warnings...

Edit: yeah, you edited it before I replied. Anyway, I don't like the way they're going...standards are there for a reason, and they're not meant to be "overruled" by any browser. Their tests just encourage lazy behaviour by not coding properly. Either you code correctly, or you don't code at all. It's as simple as that.

Last edited by 1c3d0g (2006-04-03 17:19:50)

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StoicJester

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Re: WebUI + Opera 9

i did forget but i caught myself and finished 4 secs after you did

Last edited by StoicJester (2006-04-03 17:18:05)

RoyalShrubber

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Either you code correctly, or you don't code at all. It's as simple as that.

... yeah windows 95 was build on that paradigm, developers needed to make code without errors, or else we got blue screens. And it wasn't bad while you ran errorless software… Now as we know, many things changed, and with Vista m$ is trying to ignore software errors, as much as possible, so the OS remains stable if some program crashes…

Moral of the story: Browsers, in my belief, should ignore errors and display other content correctly; moreover browsers should even be able to detect error and report it.

1c3d0g

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Exactly. Just ignore the errors (and even better, report the error so it can be fixed), but never, in a million years, should the software try to "interpret" the error as to what possible action it should be. That's just wrong.

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mleko

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

working on opera 9.0 weekly build 8333

RoyalShrubber

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

whare are you from mleko?

1c3d0g

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Sounds like Africa, but I could be wrong...

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dAbReAkA

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

mleko means milk in bulgarian

mleko

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

whare are you from mleko?

i`m from Poland.
Mleko = MILK (in English)

AresXP

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

*installing newest weekly build*

RoyalShrubber

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

and in slovene

winMX_67

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Wait, oh man. I hit check for updates and it had none. I guess ill have to update it manually :-P.

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bgmnt

BugMeNot account

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

I think this project should all be about compatability and not features.......doesn't that just make sense?

Directrix

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Re: WebUI + Opera 9

It does, but some things I really can't do anything about at the moment, eg. Opera doesn't allow JS to prevent events from firing, which would mean that right-clicking shows the Opera's context menu over the WebUI's. Someone has filed a bug report, but as far as I know nothing has been done to address this issue. I don't even want to start with IE, because in my opinion its a large pile of crap (this applies more to IE6 than IE7).

The process I go through while I'm dev-ing is as follows: get everything to work in Firefox then fix all (atleast most) issues in other browsers. I will try to get everything working in the major browsers, ie. FX (gecko-based), Opera, Safari, Konqueror (KHTML-based), and IE, but some things I'm not going to take the responsibility to fix (which are few, but are mostly nasty).

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Vasto

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

An ugly fix is to make sure you have Right clicks enabled for Javascript (It's in your preferences somewhere). Then when you right click in WebUI, press alt. Opera will select File, but you can see the right click menu that WebUI has. Not exactly an ideal fix, but close enough until the more important bugs are ironed out.

Alpha-Toxic

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

even esier:
hold the right button for a second and while holding press the left button
or even press them at thesame time, this way the java script menu shows and Opera's menu doesn't. (README worthy?)

ICleolion

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Yes it is readme worthy Alpha-Toxic

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Ultima

Administrator

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

After I enabled and disabled mouse gestures, it doesn't work for me anymore. Stupid Opera. Anyhow, that only works with mouse gestures disabled, otherwise it goes back a page instead.

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ICleolion

Member

Re: WebUI + Opera 9

Well we got multiple workarounds, im sure everyone will find something they are happy with.

What we really need though is someone to write up an opera plugin that will disable the default context menu for us

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