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Seyss

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

This release marks the first commercial-imposed "feature" added to uTorrent.

This new shitty icon that is shown all times in our bottom-right corner telling we need a stupid BT anti-virus, which we don't; it is just to promote BitDefender which is a paid anti-virus.

As TorrentFreak's predicted (well maybe not in 2010 but in 2011 I believe) uTorrent will become resource hog and remove the "a very tiny BT client" tagline.

http://torrentfreak.com/five-bittorrent … 10-100101/

osmosis

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

Seyss I understand you're annoyed, as many of us are, but you don't need to repeat yourself 10 times in the same thread. I actually agree with you and it makes ME care less about what you have to say.

Last edited by osmosis (2010-08-01 14:01:09)

ex0n

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I too was upgraded to this beta, and hated it. Needless to say, I downloaded 2.0.3 again. I really hope you're going to still offer a lightweight version without all the other crap. If not, you might as well just remove the µ from it's name, and watch a lot of users leave.

I have always loved µTorrent for it's powerful yet simple and non-bloated interface, please at least give us the option of keeping that.

reginaldgillette

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I just wish the labels were in alphabetical order, and showed how many torrents in each label.

Thanks!

Thomas

BitTorrent Staff

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

@ex0n Don't forget that you can turn most of the new features off via. advanced settings (apps and find content). Once you do that, the differences between 2.0.3 and 2.2 are very minimal.

ex0n

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

Yeah, I tried that, but I still didn't like it. I don't want to expand stuff in the sidebar to see my labels. If this is where µTorrent is headed, you can count me out sooner or later. It's almost like buying an Acer laptop, and then spending 2 hours removing crapware that you don't want. It shouldn't be necessary.

Firon

Administrator

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I just wish the labels were in alphabetical order, and showed how many torrents in each label.

Thanks!

Both of these will be implemented (the former is an oversight and the latter is a bug).

Shadey

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

2.2 autoupdate -> endless crash loop.

Firon

Administrator

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

We'll have a new 2.2 up today.

Seyss

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

@jdaxses

very well written post..

Talldog9

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I like the Griffin. Call me crazy. No need to wait and hope a certain feature gets implemented by the devs.
EDIT: Official devs.

Last edited by Talldog9 (2010-08-03 17:05:45)

moises125

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

show a window that display the files inside the torrent when adding torrent doesnt work

moogly

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

@moises125:

Check these 2 boxes:
1/ Preferences > UI Settings > Show a window that displays the files inside the torrent
2/ Preferences > Directories > Always show dialog on manual add

j000

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

Today uTorrent updated to build 20896 and I saw this:

If I click anywhere in the left sidebar (or whatever you call it) all my torrents disappear.

(Sorry for any language mistakes, English is not my native)

Last edited by j000 (2010-08-04 01:51:28)

Virtual_ManPL

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Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

this GUI bug with left menu and scroll bar still exist

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Decibert

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I know it's all been said here before but the more people agree on this, the earlier devs can see how many people are unhappy with this release.
I automatically went from 2.0.3 to 2.2 (this was supposed to happen?), and what an eye-sore.
The icons are terribly confusing for someone who's used to blue meaning what it meant for years. I have to do double-takes all the time because downloads look like uploads and the rest is all green (also, hella ugly, but that's not that important).

Expandable side menus -> what for? I have all this white space in the side bar, yet I still have to click multiple times before I have the old overview back. Completely unnecessary and very annoying. I understand the lack of alphabetical sorting was a small error, but it's not yet fixed in the new build.

I don't use feeds, and I don't use apps -> time to make those parts of the side panels easily removable. The AV, well, it installs for me but won't work and won't update, it is not customizable in any sense . And then there is the icon!
I'm used to this nonsense from proper AV programs, but not from usually inobtrusive uTorrent! What a sell-out, and what a nonsense, my current AV does what it's supposed to do and this is a major turn-off. Can this not be disabled?

The possibility of Apps is great, improving modability by letting users install what they want to, stuff the general user doesn't need but still having the option to do so without making the client bloated for everyone. I love this system with browsers, games and whatnot. I will definitely use the new web options to manage my seedbox here when it's in a stable release.
But the implementation is horrible, no option to disable the section and even constant urging to install a useless, worthless app!

The streaming part actually works for me, but I could do that in other clients, which I don't use, because I prefer nonbloatedness.

The best outcome would be: old icons back (was there anything wrong with them? Or you know, customizability), no expandable sidemenus (or by default expanded when amount of labels/feeds <20), option to disable find content, app and rss sections easily, no bitguard warnings, making streaming optional by creating separate clients (a bloated one and a lightweight one) or making it some sort of app/plugin.
The main sell points for uTorrent are lightness together with customizability and uTP. Let's not ruin the first two points, because another client will take its place.

Obi-Wan

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I have the next problem, in the labels not show the number of torrents in each label, show in 'Labels' (root label) the number of total torrents in all labels, but in the break down of each inherit labels (TV shows, Movies...) not shown the number of torrents in this label.

Last edited by Obi-Wan (2010-08-04 04:28:41)

kookykrazee

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

So, how do I disable the apps feature and any non-torrent based features?

Firon

Administrator

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I know it's all been said here before but the more people agree on this, the earlier devs can see how many people are unhappy with this release.
I automatically went from 2.0.3 to 2.2 (this was supposed to happen?), and what an eye-sore.
The icons are terribly confusing for someone who's used to blue meaning what it meant for years. I have to do double-takes all the time because downloads look like uploads and the rest is all green (also, hella ugly, but that's not that important).

Expandable side menus -> what for? I have all this white space in the side bar, yet I still have to click multiple times before I have the old overview back. Completely unnecessary and very annoying. I understand the lack of alphabetical sorting was a small error, but it's not yet fixed in the new build.

It's going to be fixed so it will remember the expanded state across sessions (and what you were last looking at, too). Sorting will come in the next build.

I don't use feeds, and I don't use apps -> time to make those parts of the side panels easily removable. The AV, well, it installs for me but won't work and won't update, it is not customizable in any sense . And then there is the icon!
I'm used to this nonsense from proper AV programs, but not from usually inobtrusive uTorrent! What a sell-out, and what a nonsense, my current AV does what it's supposed to do and this is a major turn-off. Can this not be disabled?

RSS has always been in the sidebar, the AV app definitely has some problems, and we're working on being able to disable the icon (though is it really that big of a deal? it's just an icon in the status bar). We aren't finished.

The possibility of Apps is great, improving modability by letting users install what they want to, stuff the general user doesn't need but still having the option to do so without making the client bloated for everyone. I love this system with browsers, games and whatnot. I will definitely use the new web options to manage my seedbox here when it's in a stable release.
But the implementation is horrible, no option to disable the section and even constant urging to install a useless, worthless app!

If you're not using apps, it doesn't actually do anything. It's just an extra item in the list. We're working on making it possible to remove apps from the sidebar.

The streaming part actually works for me, but I could do that in other clients, which I don't use, because I prefer nonbloatedness.

It doesn't use any resources if you're not using it. Didn't even take much code to add into the client, the way we did it (and real streaming is only in 3.0, not 2.2).

The best outcome would be: old icons back (was there anything wrong with them? Or you know, customizability), no expandable sidemenus (or by default expanded when amount of labels/feeds <20), option to disable find content, app and rss sections easily, no bitguard warnings, making streaming optional by creating separate clients (a bloated one and a lightweight one) or making it some sort of app/plugin.
The main sell points for uTorrent are lightness together with customizability and uTP. Let's not ruin the first two points, because another client will take its place.

You do realize that you can skin the client, right? We have that whole skins section at the top of every page. So if you don't like any of the icons, you can change them to your heart's content. We're still tweaking the built-in ones, though.
And again, streaming has no impact on resource consumption. Same for apps.
Keep in mind this is a beta, and we're not done.

Firon

Administrator

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I have the next problem, in the labels not show the number of torrents in each label, show in 'Labels' (root label) the number of total torrents in all labels, but in the break down of each inherit labels (TV shows, Movies...) not shown the number of torrents in this label.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9751/utorrentm.png

It's going to be added. Just sit tight.

So, how do I disable the apps feature and any non-torrent based features?

Just don't use apps and it does nothing. We'll probably add a way to remove it from the sidebar later, though.

kookykrazee

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I read, in this thread, someone saying there was a way to remove this, in the advanced settings.  Is this not true?  Just checking.

I do wish I could change the color of the icons.  Green is not my best color..lol.

genjen

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

Has anyone else noticed that the catagory list blinks like a mofo whenever the rss feeds update?

kookykrazee

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I noticed that, I mentioned it flickering, like a bad refresh rate.  Sadly, I only have 1 feed, so it shouldn't really be that bad, I would hope.

AliFerster

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

How can I get back the obsolete category list (active, non-active torrents etc)?

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xyience

Member

Re: µTorrent 2.2 "Griffin" beta 22538

I think I found a bug,

when I try to open a torrent there no windows the show the files to be downloaded by the torrent it is automatically downloaded, same problem with the previous version of utorrent