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Thank you Firon for allowing the feature to be in uTorrent! You rock!

I can help. * I run Kubuntu linux * I use Konqueror (and since both konqy and safari have the same rendering engine, Safari should work too) * I use Firefox, but I understand many, MANY others do as well. * I'm pretty good at finding bugs. That is to say, bugs usually find me. * I am constantly using bittorrents (not really a plus... just means I like sharing Kubuntu linux .iso's) edit: also, any information on the Web-based seeding feature? I requested it like back in '05, and I realise many people might not like this concept, but some words would be nice.

Lots of people seem to like it...could we maybe see it in v1.5? Also, to whomever is still asking this question: No I am not asking for the creators oif utorrent to get the server side implemented, that would need to be made as a different program. I am only asking for the CLIENT SIDE code to be added. Maybe the coders would like to contact the shadow, or take a look at httpseeds.py in BitTornado's Source?

BitTornado, and another one (they're on the first page of this thread) are known to support it. The server tools (to host the seed) are right here: http://e.scarywater.net/bt/download/webseed-0.9a.zip . Marshy has it all wrong. Let me re-explain. If a torrent has ZERO seeds (or very few) and many leechers, then the HTTP seeding would kick in. So: A) Bandwidth is NOT wasted uneccessarily Everyone can complete their download C) The Company distributing the torrent does not have to pay for the pipes of running a "pure" http download.

Aww, it didn't make the 1.2.1 release, but it has a lot of yes's in that list! Also note: THE MAKER OF THE TORRENT WILL HAVE TO ADD THE WEB SEED FIELD. You can't just expect it to search the whole web, although, if it were intertwined with filemirrors.com...then we can see something good happening, but that would require further revision of Shad0ws specs

so what are we at... +6 (maybe +7 including Firon?) now?

Yeah, I read that web-seeding was going to be added to MakeTorrent, but then was stopped. Hopefully if it becomes popular enough, it will be added to the next version. Also, I posted a request on The Kubuntu Forums, feel free to reply to that stating it's a good idea, or to post on other websites (OpenOffice.org maybe?) to spread the word.

Yeah, that's part of the web-based seeding spec. There's a script that you put on the server, and it seeds for you. There's no client involved (well, except the client who is downloading...)

THANK YOU uTORRENT! It is much more stable, better looking, and quicker than BitTornado. My only beef is that it's not for Linux, which I use as my primary computer... but it's coming soon so I guess I can wait. And it's not Open Source, so someone just can't compile it for Linux...

Yes, if it were used to distribute illegal files. In that case, the people that make the torrents just won't have to specify an HTTP seed. But for legit downloads, say like Kubuntu Linux, or OpenOffice.org an HTTP seed could be used. Specifying an HTTP seed could be an optional field to put in when making a torrent. edit: beaten by 3 minutes, damn I'm a slow typist... another edit: Speaking of Kubuntu Linux, why is it that I'm a better seed when using uTorrent over BitTornado? uTorrent seems to allow me to upload more, and I'm still able to browse the internet with no degrading speed, it's weird, especially since I'm on a 128K connection, and my upload is 72K...

Yes, that's what I was trying to find the words to say, you said it perfectly

Hi, sorry if I missed the post that asked for this, but I did try search for "web based seeding" and "web seed" and didn't find any results. I was just wondering if uTorrent plans to add support for web-based seeding. BitTornado has had this for a while, and I must say, this feature is truly revolutionary, and would help dead torrents or torrents just starting out a hell of a lot, because an HTTP host could contribute to missing data. The problem is not too many people know of this (and for pirating-purposes, this is out-of-the-question because the RIAA would track them down), but if uTorrent starts supporting it, then maybe it will get more widespread and be a (dare I say it) standard in the BitTorrent protocol. Also, I know your going to say something like, "Yeah, that's what HTTP downloads are for", or, "Mixing the two is stupid", but think of the webhosts bandwidth, if the webhost has other people sharing even half the data, that's still a 50% decrease in their bandwidth consumption. edit: didn't make the 1.2.1 release, but it has 58 yes votes in the utorrent feature request list. Also note: THE MAKER OF THE TORRENT WILL HAVE TO ADD THE WEB SEED FIELD. You can't just expect it to search the whole web, although, if it were intertwined with filemirrors.com...then we can see something good happening, but that would require further revision of Shad0ws specs Vote for Web Based Seeding Edit two: The server tools (to host the seed) are right here (zipped archive): http://e.scarywater.net/bt/download/webseed-0.9a.zip . HOW IT WORKS: --------------------------- If a torrent has ZERO seeds (or very few) and many leechers, then the HTTP seeding would kick in. So: A) Bandwidth is NOT wasted uneccessarily Everyone can complete their download C) The Company distributing the torrent does not have to pay for the pipes of running a "pure" http download.