Correct. I should probably post up the latest layout attempt. It should hopefully explain some things. http://ignorantcow.net/utorrent2/ Please note that it is not graphically intense (contrary to the layout BSH posted up), hence less appealing to some. The choice of colors are not "flashy and bright", for I think uT suits a more corporate color scheme, soft, pastel colors. I tried to use as _less_ images as possible. This reflects uT's nature: lightweight, small, fast loading. The HTML is completely semantic, and layout is controlled *entirely* by CSS. I feel any of shrill's work would fit right in. Although, ludde seems to prefer BSH's bees, bright colors- and layout, which I will code if it gets chosen. I disargee with "cute and friendly"- I like professional and serious looking. Some useless facts. This is the third coded layout I've done for uT. html/css coding is a very tedious task. There are a TON of cross browser inconsistencies, especially when completely using CSS to style, and avoiding use of tables. I've spent the last two days trying to go around bugs, especially a very annoying one in Gecko/Firefox. (It doesn't round off relative units consistently- producing misaligned "table cells"- in which I've "emulated" a table entirely using three lists, and two containing divs.) Try enlarging text size using IE or Firefox- the layout doesn't break, and expands accordingly. A notable accomplishment, if I do say so myself /end rant