Thanks for the post, Ultima. Go ahead and take your bow now Your instructions worked like a text book - perfect. ty. You could make the instructions 100% by adding to click on 'apply' at the end he he I do have a question tho. What ports do I allow? Almost every peer has a different port! :/ I allowed the two ports thatt one torrent was using and stopped the others but still have the nat error. is this expected? i'll do the modem/router thing mentioned by 1c3d0g next.