Sawyer22

I find the web login absolutely brilliant for streaming. How ever I do not like the limited player it has. It only supports small window or zoomed in which isn't centered either. What about full screen? Also when zoomed in I dont see any controls anymore. It should also let you specify maybe VLC.exe to be run instead of vlc Mozilla plugin if its so limited. I have also some problems with login. Most of the time it tells me username doesn't exist and I have to fully close and open the browser, google chrome in my example. If any developer needs access to my web interface, pm me.

well as i said I tried most of the torrents from mininova, movie>documentary> ww2 and just a single one was stremable at about 60%. All others werent until finished and all have a part size of 128kb.

Tried steal this film 1. Not stremable until finished and the average download was 430kB/s. Or maybe .mov is just not sremable? Chunk size was 256kb. The parts seemed to download all over the place very balanced. So It didnt look like it downloaded the frist parts first at all.

Yes just downloaded the latest. HAd 0.8 before. Latest seems to pickup when stopped. It would be good to get a torrent together then, with different chunk sizes. Some movie that is free and legit so we could test this out better. Most of the torrents from P.......S, Bt.....e dont really work good and the other private fast trackers rar every shit. EDIT: just tried the mininova torrents. They are supposed to be legit and free nowdays right? Most of them have a chunk size of 128kb. Not one is able to stream for me and most are at 90% already. Are mininova torrents legit to be posted here? If yes I could pick one documentary movies of lets say 800+MB in size. Make different part chunks and try to host stream it.

So the uploaders or torrent creators will have to pack there torrents with as less pices and as bigger chuncks as possible if we wanna have a chance this working one day? Divx webplayer has an ugly picture for me. VLC, HMPC doesnt work with buffering. Any other suggested player here?

I just clicked the some high seeded torrents like you get witch recently released TVshow 10k+ seeds shown in TPB count. Streaming there works really great. Other then for that It should be pretty useless I figured. It does help when you extend the number of incoming connections above the recommended settings. I mean to the settings it wouldn't be recommended for downloading any more but is very well for finding the missing or rare chunks. Here is where I could see torrent putting stones on its own road. Anyway. Even a good speed which I'm usually getting when downloading, doesn't guarantee the streaming if you just cant get the missing chunks. So you either remove the streaming feature or change the torrent philosophy. I don't see both working together very well.. Because right now it only works good with torrents that reach into 1k seeds. Will test with various torrents from 100+ seeds but its hard to find appropriate seeding numbers. What players do support buffering and continuous playing when interrupted. VLC doesn't seem to support. Divx web player does but its picture quality is poor at best compared to VLC and openGL output.

of course I mean. what about the poeple who have connections like 25Mbit/1Mbit. If you see that when I upload at full 20Mbit I get some wired download of 90kB/s at the same time in NetLimiter, probably more with overhead. When someone downloads at 25Mbit they probably cant upload anymore. Or maybe they cant even reach there full download potential anymore either. What will this mean of torrent community when there full upload is taken just to handle the uTP requests?

yes

Well. Yes, when both are unthrottled uTP is betterm but I still wouldnt want to watch it that way. So you could say its still pretty useless. But when it comes to throttling, TCP is better then uTP.

yes. It is unlimited.

no limits. It just means its enabled like working and logging the statistics. For something to be limitted, it had to have the checkbox checked next to the service.

Well. Dunno how else you would call this. http://www.shrani.si/f/U/c3/1zynNgEU/2009-01-122208.swf compared to TCP only http://www.shrani.si/f/Y/11d/4XM48cFc/2009-01-122205.swf

I dont even know if netlimiter shows overhead or not. The thing that I'm wondering about is that nelimiter shows way more download with uTP then it does with TCP only. I understood that uTP will help us not reduce our speeds. Then the ping times. I'm getting worse pingtimes with uTP. Shouldnt it be the other way around also?

No good is that. I used Jing. There is a link at end of each movie. Click on it. Now look at that. Is good or? Now check this out? some wired download is going on in Netlimiter and ping is jumpy. So bad ping is cause by uTP. I think this should reduce it not increase. Doomsday scenario is that uTP will be an online gaming and VOIP/TV killer.

I think this shows the one torrent poor upload problem better then 100 pictures

If I set the limit right it works fine in both cases. Yes. utorrent speed + IPTV speed must not be higher then 2110kB/s if I want it to work fine.

Yes. But there is still the problem. It doesnt produce a stable high upload yet. Maybe it will when all change to final 1.9 and there are more connections. Btw. look at this with only uTP "10". There seems to be lot of download going on from uTP requests.

Sorry that was TCP unthrottled not uTP of course. No errors in bit rate producion but the picture can stutter also when I run out of bandwith due to a to high limit. So basically with uTP I get pixel loss, green squares With TCP stuttering or even a complete block if speed limit to high. But its easier to set a proper speed limit with TCP only since uTP is abit jumpy.

CTP unthrottled at my max speed. http://rapidshare.com/files/181919655/utorrent_1.9_13911.rar.htm No this can not be caused with net.calc because a utorrent setting cant effect NetLimiter. uTP must produce that.

I think I found out what is causing my problem. I belive its the unstable speed limit utorrent forces onto uTP connections. I watched netlimiter. I could set utorrent on 1600kB/s limit and IPTV is streaming at a steady 530kB/s +- a few. So when I set the limit to 1600 and forcing only TCP connections. Netlimiter showed stable 2150+- few. My max is about 2340kB/s without overheads. Then I did the same with uTP only connections. It jumped well over 2150 all the way to 2250+- few. Now I forced the speed limit to 1450kB/s which shows on netlimiter as 2110+- few and the picture is fine again. Looks like its just not limiting the uTP connection as good as it is TCP connections. Another thing I noticed compared to 1.8.1 At a limit of 1450kB/s 1.9 shows its also downloading in utorrent with a speed of around 110-115kB/s in NetLimiter. In 1.8.1 I only get about 8-10kB/s of download in utorrent when only seeding when checking with NetLimiter. That seems to be cause by uTP also since when I only use TCP. I get same results as with 1.8.1. Just about 8-10kB/s of download.

<quote>So to be clear, here are the tests you have run: TCP, throttled (1300kB/s limit ?) uTP, unthrottled I could also use results for: TCP, unthrottled uTP, throttled (1300kB/s limit ?) The current theory is that your router does not have a significant buffer - this would explain the inability to affect ping times while uploading unthrottled. So instead of delaying a packet, it would simply drop it. Packets that make it through have no extra significant delay. In this case I believe uTP will perform no worse that TCP, but basically the same. Your tests will prove that one way or the other.</quote> Firstly how do you quote on this forum . I will do the test again then With "255", "5" and "10" I don't know about the router because I have none really. I just have the fiber modem from my ISP. but as I said before regardless of any low buffers or so. I still can not reach my full upload with 1.9 unthrottled (no limit). So this is the primarly problem here, since you want me to reach the may max upload but utorrent 1.9 cant with the same 5 torrents where 1.8.1 can reach just fine, even with just one of them running.

Thats only the streaming speed of my IPTV.

Yeah but not before Friday when I'm at the other location and there computer again. However I did test It to some point before and I believe the 1300 was the limit for 1.9 and 1600 for 1.8.1. But will test again since the bandwidth differs from 150kB/s all the way to 900kB/s but is usually around 450-550kB/s

No I had no limits at no point when testing this when I uploading the results. What I meant before is that I did test it with limiting to 1300 and streaming IPTv. But when I actually did the log test I had IPTV streaming turned off and utorrent set to unlimited.

I think that is cuz you have calc.overhead turned on.