shearhell Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 After a bit of info please, i have just installed Zone Alarm and have noticed that my download seeds have slowed right down. I read somewhere that there are problems with Utorrent and this firewall. What are the best firewalls to use with Utorrent and are the " free " ones any use?ThanksJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiked Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 i actually enjoy my current firewallSygate Personal Firewall Pro 5.6 its not longer made and 5.6 was the last official release but you can find it if you look around hard enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shearhell Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 ok, thanks. I'll give it a bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 The BEST firewall to use are the hardware firewalls in routers. Software firewalls are generally trash and analogous to letting a murderer into your house and telling him to get out, while a hardware firewall would be akin to just not opening that door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syseval Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 The best is to use a software firewall behind a hardware firewall or a NAT router.Software firewall can do things that hardware firewall can't do. But hardware firewall is a must have because they have less chance to fail.I'm using Kerio 2.1.5 behind a NAT, and i have no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 On the inbound side, I'm not sure how much more a software firewall can do beyond a hardware firewall's capabilities. On the outbound side... well you can't rely on the software firewall for outbound protection -- if your computer is compromised, it's relatively trivial to bypass the firewall (rootkits, anyone?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syseval Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 If your computer is compromised, outbound protection has more chance to be blocked by software firewall than hardware firewall...But if your computer is compromised, it's more an anti-virus problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Everything you guys are saying rests on "if your computer is compromised." The key is to never let this happen. With a hardware firewall, competent antivirus (read: not Norton or McAfee), and [un]common sense, you generally won't get your system compromised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Yep, I know, but my point was that it's basically pointless to have an outbound firewall if it does happen. If it doesn't happen, well it's pointless too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syseval Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Not pointless, software outbound firewall can stop unwanted connection to internet, like the version check of acrobat reader, to be sure IE don't connect to internet, to be sure that the brower use the HTTP proxy, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Security-wise, I speak of, as was silverfire's original point (unless you think of Acrobat Reader as a murderer ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 @Syseval: If you just want to stop unwanted connections to the internet, then the Windows Firewall is more than sufficient. You don't need to bloat your system by running more than that. Extra processes = further divided attention. Even on my brand new overclocked 2.8GHz Opteron, I'm still keeping the process count down at around 28. Running yet another software firewall s a secondary or tertiary backup is pretty excessive and is just a waste of your computer's resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 The best is to use a software firewall behind a hardware firewall or a NAT router.Software firewall can do things that hardware firewall can't do. But hardware firewall is a must have because they have less chance to fail.I'm using Kerio 2.1.5 behind a NAT, and i have no problem.I'm exactly with the same setup here, that works perfectly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 @silverfire: 23-25ish without actually trying to keep the count down. I just don't run all that many applications (though I do have my loser firewall ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 You're lucky then, or you just don't need that many. I needed somewhere around 360MB in installers to get my desktop up and running with the same setup as my laptop. HTTPd is a must, Process Explorer always running, SVN cache, loads of other things. At least i can rest assured that I'll be able to run two less processes on my desktop than my laptop because i don't have the touchpad programs to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Zone Alarm Pro works great for me and no slowing of uTorrent. It does take a few minutes to ensure it is set up correctly/completey for uTorrent.Maria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Everything you guys are saying rests on "if your computer is compromised." The key is to never let this happen.Yeah, run a very secure Linux box. (Note: very secure + Linux, not very secure just because it's Linux.) Win XP's got so many backdoors and known flaws that if you're connected to the internet it's almost a question of if rather than when...you get something you don't want.Heck, nothing like a good audio "CD" from Sony to make your box run like a dog.Even lots of games use "CD protection" which adds all sorts of intentional and unintential problems.Adobe is actually a sore spot with me lately due to its crippling effect it's had on a Win XP Pro box here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'm running Windows XP, but I'm squeaky clean XP is not too far behind other OS'es in security if you know what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolfo2 Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 If you don't mind spendimg $ 60.00 than Iolo's System Mechanics 6.0 Pro with Kaspesky firewall and Anti-Hacker is everything you'll ever need to have your PC clean and with no problems.My machine is up and running for the third year now 24/7 and I have no problem on my side but sometimes the ISP can cause some problems when they upgrading but this are short terms problems.Kerio,Norton,Symantec,Zone Alarm no one works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syseval Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 @silverfire: Windows Firewall, what's that ? I don't have Windows XP, so no Windows Firewall.Kerio 2.1.5 is very light on ressource, i used it on a Pentium 75 with no problem.On a AMD 3800+ dual core, it use near nothing of CPU (and i have more than 35 process).Also, the Windows Firewall seems very limited if you compare with Kerio. It's best to disable Windows Firewall and use Kerio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmachine Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 @Syseval you mentioned Kerio, how did you configure it to allow utorrent? I get slow speeds with it and superfast when its disabled, messed around with some of the settings etc but cant see to gt it to allow certain ports.And i dont want to go back to Norton etc, although it was easy to set up it was soooo bloted!Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 If you're running Windows, use WIPFW!As far as I know, it's the closest thing you can have to IPTables for Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmachine Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Sorry i'm still not sure what WIPFW does?http://wipfw.sourceforge.net/and http://wipfw.sourceforge.net/doc.html doesnt make it much clearer for us non it tech types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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