Lucky75 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Hi all,Im using uTorrent, but I keep having that quasi-Nat error thing show up. I am using a Linksys Wrt54g v3 router with the Tarifa firmware (similar to the DDwrt/hyperwrt etc).I am port forwarding the correct ports to my computer (and using port 16881) and am not using any software firewall atm (disabled to check if it works, still doesn't).Azureus would give me a nat error once in a while, but most of the time it was good. I am stumped as to why uTorrent is giving me this error.Any ideas? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I need an eye check. Or better memory. Or something.What modem, firewall, and router are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I wrote most of that above My modem is provided by my ISP (Rogers). It is a motorola, but I forget the exact model.Firewall: Sygate before, but it is disabled now. Windows firewall is and has always been disabled (pos)Router: Linksys wrt54g v3 with tarifa firmware (allows me to set custom startup scripts to flush connections every so often. similar to hyperwrt/DDWrt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Motorola == Surfboard == Badhttp://forum.portforward.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Knowledge;action=display;num=1139203595 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 yep. I just found out it was surfboard too :S How do I get them to run off the DHCP if they won't do it? Is there any way I can access my modem myself to do this?Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Rogers ISP also has a HORRIBLE track record both with allowing file-sharing and even 3rd party VoIP services.Even if you improve/correct/change everything else, torrents may still seem rather slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 They don't throttle though according to the "Bad ISP" page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Do a wordsearch for Rogers on this forum.Or trust me when I say it's ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Any way to get around it besides switching isps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I don't think Rogers messes with port forwarding. They just throttle. But no, there probably isn't any way to get around them unless you switch. Able to get Sympatico around your area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Sympatico is horrible too. And more expensive So I should still check with my modem to see if it has that thing on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 How is Sympatico horrible?And I'm not sure what you should do with your modem, as I've never had success in helping people dealing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Sympatico has the worst technical support on the face of the earth, and also because I bundle my rogers plans together it saves me quite a bit Also, apparently rogers doesn't remote configure the modem. Any other ideas?I have also noticed that my ping SKYROCKETS when I am using uTorrent, even in the neighborhood of 1000ms+. This doesnt happen with Azureus. Any ideas? Could this be related?Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Interestingly enough, I get a nat error with azureus on this computer as well, but I am fine on my laptop. What could be causing this?Ive patched the tcpip.sys file, disabled my sygate firewall, disabled my windows firewall, and added both clients to the nod32 exceptions list.Im stumped :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 ... Regardless of what Rogers does, that link I posted earlier about the Surfboard modems was just an example to show that Surfboards mostly suck (IMHO). Other people experienced the same thing even though their ISP supposedly didn't use that "feature." Of course, if it was Rogers that told you that little tidbit about them not exploiting the modem's feature, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they're lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Well I checked through my router and it assigned it an actual ip, and THEN I checked with rogers Regardless of Surfboards sucking, why is it eating up my ping/internet/still saying I am firewalled when I am most definately not?My other computer doesnt have the "Nat error" problem, so wouldnt it be something on my computer then? All the same ports are forwarded to both computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 All the same ports are forwarded to both computers.How do you suppose the router is supposed to know which computer to send data to when it receives data on that port? You're supposed to forward different ports to different devices on the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Odd, I swear I posted a response last night... Anyways, Yea, I realized my stupidity right after I had posted it and changed the ports accordingly. Still didn't help though:S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Yea, uTorrent is definitely causing my high ping..To add: When I do a port scan, it thinks my ports are closed both on my router and on my pc, but I am sure that I opened them.Would this be a router issue? Modem issue? Computer issue? I have no idea what it is....Edit 2:uTorrent DOES work with a green symbol on my other computer, but doesnt work on this computer, even though I have no firewalls on that I know of.... I have an Asus Pn5sli nforce 570 sli motherboard, but I thought asus dropped activearmor on the 500+ chipsets? Could it be related to my pc hardware? I am also using a Linksys Wireless G Pci adapter. Maybe thats it? I am truly stumped. Port scanning from my other computer still shows that my router's ports are closed though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 What the hell? Its open now? Suddenly? What?? That worries me lol, because I have no idea what happened. It just started working :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Regarding high pings (if it's still a problem)... What does the Speed Guide show your settings to be (press Ctrl+G in µTorrent)? What did you patch the TCPIP.sys limit to? What is net.max_halfopen set to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky75 Posted December 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I have tried a bunch of different things. Used tcpip default, used tcpip @ 50used net.max_halfopen @ 4, 8, 30. All still causing high ping, though I am somehow not firewalled anymore. That scares me more, because I don't know why. I can still only get up to around 80kbps max total though :Sspeedcheck is 1256/176 kbps :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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