Majorix Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 I have a weird problem.My download bandwith is 100 kB/s. (Not kbits!) (1mbit ADSL connection)When I have a single torrent working in utorrent (working with only a single torrent at a time is what I got used to, back in old days using BitTornado) the download speed is only at 30-40 kB/s.When I have multiple torrents working then each one downloads at 20-30, with some upto 50 and I get about 90 kb/s, which I consider to be good.To give an example,I had 2 torrents working a few hours ago today. They were each at speeds around 25-35, and I was dling with 50-70 usually.Then I added another torrent. It is still downloading with others and the total dl speed I get is 90-95 - pretty good!The problem is that I usually only download a few torrents, most likely only ONE, and then I dl at 30. Seeing as how utorrent can dl at 90-95 I get mad when I have to wait days and days for the torrent to finish.I don't have any problems with NAT/firewall. I opened ports for UTorrent, the icon in the status bar is a green circle with a check in the mid, the speed guide says the ports are ok, I set most peers to connect to to 250 and 150 for single torrent. Everything seems to be fine yet I have this problem.Help if you can please.EDIT: Forgot to mention that I have already tried this with good torrents. I mean torrents with a lot of peers/seeds with this, one had 200 seeds 2000 peers! So it is not about that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Ok, so what's your upload speed doing at the same time?It's unusual for your download speed to be more than 3 times your upload speed except on very fast torrents. Starting more torrents means you may get some download speed even if sharing next-to-nothing back -- especially per upload slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Well when downloading my upload speed is at 10 kB/s. When not, 25 (max).You say it is unusual to be dling at more than 3 times upload speed? I always dled with my dl speed being more than 5 times my ul speed, and got no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 If you only got 1-2 seeds and 20 peers then it's unusual to get massive download speeds with low upload speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 My downloads have at least 20 seeds and 30-40ish peers, nothing wrong there I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Depends on where the ips are located. If it's on anti-BitTorrent ISPs or even ISPs that have no peering agreements with your ISP, then it's possibly slow anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Well I live in Turkey and I usually download from EU trackers so I am not that far from the other peers.My ISP is the most popular one in my country and most likely has agreements with most other ISPs worldwide.So is this a convo between me and switeck? No other people who have any ideas? Please, come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Maybe Ultima has some ideas?Have you tried going through his slow speed FAQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I read a few FAQs here and there, probably his is included too donno. Is my situation truly a slow speed problem anyways? I can dl at full speed with multiple tasks.COMMENTS PEOPLE! PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Anything wrong with conversing with a single person...? Happens with me all the time ;ohttp://distribution.openoffice.org/p2p/index.htmlHow does a torrent from here run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Say, Ultima, are you a magician? My dl rate went upto about 100 kB/s in just like 1 min and stayed there constantly. Awesome! I nearly cried infront of the pc!I noticed utorrent was mostly connecting to seeds and disregarding leechers. It connected to 65(!) seeds (It usually connects to 20-30 seeds even if there are hundreds of them with other torrents) and close to no peers. I also noticed no leechers was connecting to me, my upload speed was like 0.5 or so.Tell me what is up with those torrents? Do they use some tricks? Great trackers? Incredibly fast seeds? Special methods to make you connect to seeds only? Tell everything and tell me how I can do this with other torrents too.I can give you nothing for this, I am just a poor student having a living from dad's money. But if you can fix this, I will thank you very much. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarebear Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 what did you do to fix your speed Majorix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Not fixed yet, waiting for input from Ultima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 With a connection like yours, I can't imagine how you're even connecting to that many seeds, unless you selected the wrong option in the Speed Guide...The torrent is fast because it's seeded by machines on very fat pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I don't know either. A lot of seeds really O_oSo should I ALWAYS download torrents like that? I want that speed with all torrents (well at least with those with enough seeds/peers) I am dl'ing... Is there a way to accomplish this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 No, there isn't. Since BitTorrent is a P2P protocol, there are no guarantees about speed. What is your upload speed in kbps, and what did you select in the Speed Guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I upload with 10/sec when downloading since higher speeds somehow slow down the download. And in speed guide it is set to 256kbps.I am really sad that I can't fix this problem Guess I will have to work with multiple files all the time from now on.Anyways, if you are really sure there can be no solution you can close this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 "10/sec" is not your speed in kbps, and you almost certainly haven't used the Speed Guide properly ;\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 We're wanting to know how fast your connection is both down and up, as measured by speed tests while nothing else is going on.The results of that can tell us if your problem is related to overloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I have 1024/256kbps ADSL connection. But to make sure I am able to dl/ul at these speeds, I ran a test that the Speed Guide redirected me to. Surprisingly, the test was served by my ISP. So I am trusting the results. There was no upload test but the download test gave me this:853.3 kbps = 104 KB/sWhile it showed 103 KB/s as the normal speed for my connection. So my conn is doing quite good.And btw, my dl speed went up by itself. Now I am dling with 70-75 with a single torrent up. That is good but still far far away from where it should be at.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Download speed doesn't mean much to us. Upload speed is the most important number in determining your settings. If it's as you say (> 10KiB/s means throttled downloads), then either your ISP is lying to you, or you've more trouble on your hands (malware?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I can't test upload speed because there are no test centers close to where I live. I believe they would result in incorrect speed ratings.But I can set my ul speed to 22KB/sec, that is what the speed guide set it to by default, and it is very close to my max ul speed. And you wonder what the result is? 20/sec upload and 25-30/sec dl with most torrents.And I am almost sure I have no malware because it has been like this since my last reformat of the pc a few days ago. But if you still believe I do have viruses spywares etc I will run a scan to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Use the Speed Guide (CTRL+G) setting of xx/256k but reduce your max upload speed to 17-20 KB/sec. Or choose the xx/192k setting and allow 2 torrents max -- but only 1 downloading at once.If you're not consistantly uploading at the speed you set it to, then it's probably overloading...and that's what's causing your download speed to be a little low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorix Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I already have utorrent installed with xx/256 settings, everything else is the way they were setup, just lowered the ul limit because it seemed to slow my dl speed when it was over 15. Now I am changing my ul speed depending on the average speed of the uploads, between 10-15.But yeah, like you said the ul speed is not at all constant. It keeps changing between 5-15 all the time, and I can't find a reason for it. My dl speed is not affected from this however, it is at 90-100 usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Ironically, the overloads can be caused by the OTHER end. If the other guy is also uploading at "unlimited" speed, then they may be so overloaded that you can't upload quickly (or even 1 KB/sec!) back to them....So your upload speed suffers through no fault of your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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