hesd Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I would really like Nat traversal for uTorrent. Like some people here, my connection is beyond redemption; me on wifi and availing DSL connection isn't a possiblity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 I have an idea. Firon earlier wrote this:"beg the BitComet devs for it (haha), or pay them money for the source like BitLord did.. lol"Since there are quite a few people who want NAT traversal implemented, how about finding out how much we would have to pay BitComet devs for the source. As long as its a reasonable amount, maybe we could collect donations from people who want it to pay for the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Eh µTorrent is owned by BitTorrent Inc now, so I don't think donations are even needed anymore, since (1) they might have more time/staff to work on NAT traversal, or (2) if they can't get it done themselves, they already have the money to buy a solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Cool!In for update soon then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Eh that's assuming they even are interested in implementing NAT traversal -- I don't know myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Power to the voice of the people - 830 people or more want the feature according to the index site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckerfan Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 i know bitcomet sucks, but recently some NAT Traversal stuff was done to it. don't know if it'll help the devs or not...http://www.bitcomet.com/doc/changelog-beta.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 >.>It's actually had NAT traversal for quite a while now, though, so if it were helpful now, it should always have been helpful, but a changelog doesn't help much... ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAT_Traversalhttp://www.brynosaurus.com/pub/net/p2pnat/http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/2079/http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/bittorrent/2004-December/001149.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUNhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP_hole_punching:dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I don't think it was an issue with *understanding* NAT traversal that ludde had a problem with, it was more a technical issue he ran into, whatever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 It was. He tried to get it working but had many problems that he was unable to fix after several months, so he gave up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 How 'bout buying the bitcomet source and figuring it out? Maybe taking donations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Not every connection handles UDP packets in a predictable/correct manner, which is an absolute requirement for NAT Traversal to work correctly.Ironically, the very people who need NAT Traversal will likely be too heavily firewalled for it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 How does BitComet pull it off then?Edit: Asked non-agressively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 NAT Traversal is made to "transparently" bypass the firewalling effects specifically caused by routers NAT, it is far less likely to work with software firewalls.BitComet's version of NAT Traversal works because many people use it that don't really need it. They're too lazy to forward ports on their Linksys or D-Link routers...which it probably works fine on, given nothing else in their network setup is particularly complicated.And this causes a problem because although they're not firewalled to other NAT Traversal-enabled users they STILL are to EVERYONE else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nish81 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Just curious, but if I understand you right, even with NAT Traversal, the main problem would be with software firewalls. But isn't it relatively easy to allow utorrent to pass through software firewalls? I'm in a situation where my network administrator wont let me forward a port into my computer, my software firewall is allowing it fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckerfan Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 does azureus have nat t? maybe the devs can take a peak at its code... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Just to comment since this was brought back up. BitComet's NAT Traversal now supports the PE/MSE function, and yes it is backwards compatible. BitComet's NAT Traversal works well at my college which has some big fancy expensive cooperate firewall software. The only client I can use their is BitComet.Since BitComet uses the same DHT as µTorrent I would suggest just borrowing some code for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Considering both programs are closed source, I doubt it'll be possible to borrow code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degocrash Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Another vote for NAT traversal. I can only connect to trackers through my home proxy with BitComet or Bitspirit. I seemed to have more success with the later actually (which is based on Bitcomet btw), but both programs are banned in many trackers. Plus they seem to fuck-up the connection a bit, as in getting a bit slower, less responsive. Latest utorrent build at this date does not fill the lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 NAT transveral requires an immense understanding of UDP packet behavior across software firewalls, consumer routers, and internet network switches. µTorrent's handling of UDP packets current only exists in DHT traffic, and it's not exactly doing well if people's problems concerning DHT is anything to go by.The first beta versions of NAT transveral may likely cause more problems than they fix. It'd be like Azureus' protocol encryption bugs (when it first implimented PE) or D-Link Router DMZ data destruction...except many magnitudes worse if this feature were enabled by default!So even if this works perfectly for most people, this definitely should not be implemented by default...if done at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game90 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 the chinese are now more happy than ever to use bitcomet, because it supports PE over Nat traversal. the main reason why they need nat traversal is because chinese ISPs are heavily proxied by law. ("Great firewall of china")without nat traversal, p2p is almost impossible within china. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessebs Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Any word in the 1.7 version?BitComet works great, but the ads are too annoying. I think overall, BitTorrent's usefulness will improve with widespread acceptance of NAT Traversal as it would open up the college campuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 1.7 is in a feature freeze state now.UDP nat traversal doesn't happen cleanly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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