Webseeds in 1.7 beta

[jbk]

Hi

I'm trying to get the webseed feature in 1.7 beta to work. I have a .torrent with 8 webseeds and in Azureus it seems to pick them up just fine and downloads from them, but in uTorrent nothing really happens. It lists the webseeds in the "general" tab under webseeds, but apart from that there's no way to enable/interact with the feature.

1) How do I get it to work?

2) Are there any ways that I can turn on some more debugging to see what's going on?

3) Can you select whether it should always use webseeds or use them only when no peers are around?

[DreadWingKnight]

2> Logger tab, verbose

3> It only uses webseeds when it is at the maximum availability and there are still pieces missing.

[Ultima]

1) It works on its own.

3) As DWK implied, web seeds should be used as infrequently as possible to minimize load on the server. Web seeds should be used purely as backup.

[jbk]

1> Great

2> Thanks, didn't think about right-clicking there before.

3> My torrent is currently at maximal availability (59,6% in my case) but I see no attempts to start any downloads in the logger tab with all logging options (peer traffic, errors, verbose) enabled.

There are occasional UPnP messages as well as attempts to connect to some firewalled peers.

What am I looking for? How would I know if it attempted to connect to a webseed but failed?

[Firon]

It only supports the Getright webseeding spec. And currently only for single files (which will be fixed eventually).

[jbk]

> It only supports the Getright webseeding spec. And currently only for single files (which will be fixed eventually).

The webseeds are listed in the .torrent as described on the Getright page (url-list => list of urls) and they correctly appear on the "general" tab when selecting the downloading .torrent. Also the .torrent only contains a single file.

[Bd0g]

Hmm, was wondering if someone successfull with http seeding through utorrent

could whip up a manual for dummies.

All I got from adding a http seed was utorrent showing a complete download (was watching the speed window)

but it didn't add anything to the target file.

So I'm a bit stuck atm.

[Ultima]

http://www.getright.com/seedtorrent.html

As long as the torrent is created according to the spec, it should work fine. µTorrent currently supports webseeding for single-file torrents only.

[Bd0g]

Ya, it should be fine, but all I manage to do is break the torrent when I try to edit it.

So still... if anyone could clear it up and explains the jinxed problems to stay away from.

Shouldn't it be as simple as: Paste the http/ftp address into the tracker field when you create the torrents ?

I'm still weary to this style of using webseed. All it takes is one that edits the torrent and picks out the http/ftp addys and posts it on multiple places to cause havoc on your server.

[DreadWingKnight]

Shouldn't it be as simple as: Paste the http/ftp address into the tracker field when you create the torrents ?

No.

The tracker protocol is much different.

If you break the torrent by editing it, you're editing it wrong.

[Ultima]

announce/announce-list != url-list

[Bd0g]

Hmm.... well.. lets see if we could get somewhere with this instead and get a clearer answer

Where in my example lies the problem compared to the example from getrights page?

Getrights example:

-----------------

d8:announce27:http://tracker.com/announce

13:creation datei1128487910e

8:url-list26:http://mirror.com/file.exe

4:info...

My example:

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d8:announce57:http://www.oppnakanalen.se/stockholm/tracker/announce.php

10:created by

13:uTorrent/170B

13:creationdatei1180563565e

8:url-list26:http://www.oppnakanalen.se/stockholm/filmin.gif

8:encoding

5:UTF-8

4:info

d6:lengthi1531e4:name10:filmin.gif12:piece lengthi65536e6:pieces20:

[Firon]

Go learn bencoding. You won't be able to edit it without knowing (and I can see you don't).

[DreadWingKnight]

url-list is reportedly a list of strings, not a single string.

It appears that both are wrong.

More importantly though, learn bencode as your entry for url-list is not validly bencoded - http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification#bencoding

[Bd0g]

So theres no easy way to actaully just add a http adress at this stage unless you get aquinted with bencoding?

If so, hows progress on implementing a userfriendly way of handling this issue?

[Firon]

Bencoding is very simple. It'll take you a minute to learn.

It'll get added to the torrent maker eventually.

[Bd0g]

Uhm, you know fellas.. it would have been real easy to say:

26:http://www.oppnakanalen.se/stockholm/filmin.gif << 26 is wrong, it has to be the same number as there are chars

47:http://www.oppnakanalen.se/stockholm/filmin.gif (47 in this case, so this one works)

Like draining a stone for water