Relocate - renamed files

[skold]

Relocate is handy, but I prefer to rename files as well to fit with my way of organizing things (ie, id prefer Gentoo 2005.1.ISO to install-x86-universal-2005.1.iso) .. but after renaming files, utorrent has no way of knowing what they are, even if its the exact same file.

Would it be possible to have the Relocate feature also give you the option to point to a renamed version of the file? So I could go through every file in the torrent, and point it to my version of it, and have it seed from that? Since they're all hashed, it should be easy to ensure that someone doesn't point it to the wrong file. Just check the hash of the expected file and the one given, and give a warning if someone points it to the wrong file.

[Firon]

It's only possible with single file torrents.

[skold]

Currently perhaps, but its fully possible with multi file torrents. If not, please explain why

[DutchDude]

My best guess.... in theory it would be possible since the downloaded .torrent file contains the filename, so someone/program could edit the torrent and change the filename. But what when you redownloaded the .torrent file and overwrited the one present ? This would ruine all your name-changes. Now you might argue that the program could check the hash to verify it has the right file. You MIGHT even be right.... unless the file is incomplete, then the hash may be wrong. Hashes aren't pefect. They help validate a file, but they are based on the content and computed, so even hashes are not 100% fail-safe. Take to files with all 0's from different length.... they probably has the same hash (or checksum). Now imagine 2 pictures with a lot of black in it. A large part of the picture might result in the same hash, still the picture would be different as a whole. Hash or Checksums are never 100% reliable, but their reliability are considered near 100% if some important conditions are met....

In worst case scenario the filename & the has didn't match... so are they the same or something completely different ????

Finally... even if you had everything right.... you would have to change the name again after overwriting the .torrent file with a recently downloaded one....

[ColdArmor]

Sometimes even with 1 file torrents it's a b*tch somtimes.

[McoreD]

Nice idea. I also think it is possible because hash checking does not care what the fileName is.

[NiteShdw]

If you use the "Add Torrent (no default save)" option you should be able to specify any filename you want. The same goes for seeding a file that you've renamed afterward. You just pick that file and uTorrent will run the hash check and begin seeding.

[abbad0n]

Doesn't sound like it would work for files (or other folders) inside a folder.

Maybe if someone thought up a type of aliasing system for torrent files/folders to be renamed but still keep the old name for re-seeding. Would be nice, but might be impractical as well. After all we don't want to add any unnecessary bloat to µTorrent.

[skold]

an aliasing system was what i was thinking of

lets say you have the original torrent, which references isofile-00001.bin

then you have an isofile.dat file which utorrent makes and saves in the same place as the original torrent.. this file tells utorrent that isofile-0001.bin is actually ISOFile.BIN, as well as telling it where its located..

utorrent can quickly check the hashes of both files to make sure it is indeed the right file.. it shouldnt be too difficult internally to save incoming data to this new filename, and send outgoing data with the original filename.

i dont know about how 'bloated' this would be, but it would be the perfect feature for me.. the only reason i stop seeding torrents is because i eventually want to add them to the rest of my files, which always involves renaming them.

[McoreD]

the only reason i stop seeding torrents is because i eventually want to add them to the rest of my files, which always involves renaming them.

That's very true. Same with me.

[sabret00the]

can i bump this request for relocate/rename in the torrent menu, it was in the 1.5 beta but seems to have gone awol, i was hoping an oversight would fix it hence the delayed re-request.

[Ultima]

Was it...? I don't recall anything of the sort, truth be told =o

[Firon]

You've never been able to rename individual files in a multi-file torrent.

[sabret00the]

i didn't mean individual files, but actual torrents packs (what you can click on in the main screen), i'm pretty sure you could "relocate/retarget"?

i guess i should've started a new thread for clarity's sake.

[Ultima]

Don't think so... as far as I knew/know, it's always been, and still is, just a cosmetic feature.

[Firon]

You can rename the display name by pressing F2. You can also rename its folder/move the folder by stopping the torrent, rename the folder, then Advanced -> Set download location.

[sabret00the]

Thanks Firon, just what i was looking for. I have no idea how i missed it. Sorry for wasting your time folks.

[kulmegil]

ahhh... to be honest it's one of the most annoying thing for me. I rename a lot of files and I simply keep hardlinks to org. filenames when keep seeding. But it makes problems if I try to move files to different partition (as hardlinks won't follow).

Hash + filesize should be enough to identify files.... often just filesize is enough to guess witch renamed file is witch in org. .torrent. It would be a killer feature for me.

It may also be implemented by 3rd party tool, if ludde can't find time for this.

[silv]

Just another bump for the _original_ feature request (renaming files in multi-file torrent).

Is it possible to get feedback from uTorrent creators? Simply "noway", "will be implemented [~project date]" or "we still think on it".

Thanks.

[bit101]

Add me as another one who wants the ability to rename files in a multi-file torrent.

It's especially annoying when the original uploader has named files with typos that put the files out of order or mislabeled them. Being able to rename them while seeding would mean I don't have to stop seeding the torrent just to correct them.

Really, I wouldn't think it'd be that hard to do: a quick .torrent file edit and a file rename. It'd be a killer feature.

[silentguy]

ACK!

I just came here, looking for exactly this...

my main arguments would to being able to fix typos/adapt naming to my other files and the ability to split big downloads to two locations... I know the second one is more difficult, but i know for a fact that it worked in azureus... I'm actually thinking about going back cause i'm loading a 60 gb torrent right now to continue i have to split it between two hdds... and that does not work with my favorite uTorrent right now :-(

[AtG]

I just want to add my vote for this feature. It would be great to have a possibility similar to Set Download Location... for every file on Files tab.

Also would be handy to set new .torrent-file location in similar way without loosing accumulated statistic.

[spleenJack]

I'm developing tool for automatic relocation files (available various methods: hardlinking, renaming, copying) for specific torrent(s). Correspondence's identification is based on size comparison, hash checking and regular expression rules for filenames.

Sorry for my bad English

[AlexeyPetrov]

It seems, that uTorrent 1.8 will have the feature, described at this topic: user will be able to change manually name and location of every file in .torrent.

Screenshot from 1.8 beta

But why not to do it automatically? uTorrent knows hash of every file in .torrent and can find equal files with other names and even in subfolders. In the best case user will only target uTorrent to folder with similar files, uTorrent searches for equal files, downloads all the rest (if needed) and starts seeding.

spleenJack, I'm interested in your tool. Waiting for release

[Lord Alderaan]

µtorrent does NOT know the hash of every file. Torrents are divided in pieces (and files are completely ignores in that process) and µtorrent knows the hash of every piece.