knotty Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Could this be implemented into µtorrent ,its already in bittornado ,but thats not as good or efficient as µtorrent .Basically if some peer continually sends you bad ,unuseable data ,then the client simply kicks them off , no selective banning is involved ,just the actual bad data sender .Dloaded a 2 gb torrent to find 5 hash fails and 148 mb of wasted data also sent .If the offending peer is removed from the torrent dload it will save you time dloading worthless data ,and speed up your finish time as well .It is user selectable in tornado and would be good to have the same choice for µtorrent as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Doesn't it already do that? 5 hash fails isn't a lot, really. Certainly not enough to trigger the ban. Most of the wasted data isn't bad data, it's just data you already had or didn't request (it happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyldman Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I would like to see this, azurues has it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayers Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 This has been requested already, no? I've been hammered by some nasty fake senders so I do find it useful. But 5 hash fails is nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 @vinyldman: Please read the entire post before replying... The answer is right above your post (a bit ridiculous, isn't it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegasusX Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Still, it should be an option of adjusting how many fails before banning a peer.It doesn't really hurt anything to allow it to be adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegasusX Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Or how about allowing the manual banning of peers who cause more than 4 hash errors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegasusX Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm downloading a CD (700MB) and I've gotten 178 hash fails which in my mind is a lot considering what I've seen in other clients. This wasted a total of 90.6MB of bandwidth, which is considerably a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssjkakaroto Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 IMHO if the same peer sends bad data more than once it should be banned. what kind of crappy client/connection it he/she using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Pretty sure µTorrent does this by default, but just to make sure I also use Peer Guardian 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssjkakaroto Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 peer guadian has no relation to bad data sent by peers, it only blocks ip ranges from "dangerous" sources (RIAA et al) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 A recent torrent i downloaded had in excess of 170 hash failures also (~0340MB of data), in my experience, these hash failed pieces were bad/corrupt/fake data... I looked in the peer-list and a lot of the peers i was transferring data from were in the same IP-Block range... So suspicions were aroused.. And i decided to install Protowall, I then re hash-checked the torrent, rebooted, update the IP block list in Protowall, and continued to download the torrent.... It finished shortly after (which was a surprise to me, because the % completed fluctuated so much (obviously) because of the amount of failures) and none of the same IP-Block range IPs were present, but Protowall was throwing a right fitGuess that explains a lot for that torrent anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrisnin Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Well done kludge, infact most bad data comes from fake seeders. You can see this when you try to download the latest file movies. The following fucntions are usefull.Auto ban peers which keep sending bad data1 IP per task for uploading and downloading ( sometimes you have 1 IP with many ports connecting to you to download 1 torrent it most likely a fake peer trying to waste you banwidth)built in Auto safepeers like Azureus whcih auto updates untrusted IP range everytime it you start a uttorent. Currenlty Utorrent uses IPfilter.dat not sure how effective it is. BTW here the known MPAA IP range and fake MPAA trackers. These bastards can delay you from getting a 1gb file for up to 76 hours. I got hit once now I uses Azureus but haven't tried uttorent yet, I'll get a try and see.38.112.0.0 - 38.119.255.255 (Performance Systems International Inc)64.34.160.0 - 64.34.191.255 (ServerBeach, Peer 1 Network Inc)64.62.170.0 - 64.62.170.255 (Peak Web Hosting)64.124.0.0 - 64.125.255.255 (Abovenet Communications Inc)66.250.46.0 - 66.250.47.255 (MediaSentry/SafeNet)70.84.0.0 - 70.87.127.255 (ThePlanet.com Internet Services)168.215.129.64 - 168.215.129.95 (MediaSentry)206.169.170.240 - 206.169.170.255 (MediaSentry)206.169.225.80 - 206.169.225.95 (MediaSentry)206.169.230.96 - 206.169.230.111 (MediaSentry)208.50.192.0 - 208.51.255.255 (Global Crossing)209.203.99.224 - 209.203.99.239 (MediaSentry) The myBittorrent.com Staff has identified the following trackers as BAD TRACKERS: most must have change by nowhttp://distan.servecounterstrike.com/announce http://freevideo.no-ip.info/announce http://zorba.zapto.org/announce http://fuf.zapto.org/announce http://tzar.servecounterstrike.com/announce http://whypay.servebeer.com/announce http://m0vies.servep2p.com/announce http://matha.sytes.net/announce http://tracker.workisboring.com/announce http://freemovies.serveftp.com/announce http://chech.servequake.com/announcehttp://kur.servegame.com/announce http://nia.servehttp.com/announce http://torrentsource.servemp3.com/announce http://mpaa.servehttp.com/announce http://nopay.no-ip.info/announce http://prince2.bounceme.net/announce http://startracker.geekgalaxy.com/announce http://cash.servequake.com/announcehttp://gleneagle.damnserver.com/announcehttp://zesty.no-ip.info/announce http://206.81.133.67/announce http://coolserver.servecounterstrike.com/announce http://mpaa.servehttp.com/announcehttp://tracker101.no-ip.info/announcehttp://q1.sytes.net/announcehttp://matha.sytes.net/announcehttp://mishmish.servemp3.com/announcehttp://waikiki.net-freaks.com/announcehttp://only-guiness.servebeer.com/announcehttp://gruzia.zapto.org/announce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdArmor Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 µT does this automatically with hashfail via IPFilter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 damn, theres a lot of fakery around... Shame some people are too ignorant, or unknowing and blame the client That instance above was with AZ, and i could easily manually kick the peers... µTorrent doesn't have that `feature`, but in all fairness even with protowall running i still got a lot of bad peers with µTorrent...Still, almost every time i'm using µTorrent now, just occasionally having to resort to the bloatware that is AZ... And its pretty painful watching my system get chewed up when obviously it needn't be... Just goes to show!:w00t: for team µTorrent:thumbsdown: for team AZureus.. You're getting sloppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrisnin Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Well the only way to know for sure is too use utorrent on the latest movie and check if you are receiving bad data. The movie I downloaded recorded 300mb of rubbish data droped.A normal clean torrent will not receive any bad data at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 I'm on a small swarm, and I've noticed two peers that keep sending bad data. Both get up to 5, disappear, then come right back. They're both Comcast IP's. It seems µTorrent blocks them, but then they come right back, get up to 5 hash errors, disappear again. Same IPs, over and over.-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atkerr Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 It was stated that Peer Guardian was not relevant to this discussion but PG can be used to block an individual IP by creating an additional list of your own creation and adding the offending IP to it; you have to state it as a range of IPs, so just use the same IP for the first and the last in the range. It's a little bit of work to do so but it's effective.If anybody needs a step-by-step, I could post one.:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Actually I seem to be getting bad data from Comcast peers in almost all my torrents (which are from the pointy-eared pitchfork-bearing little green guy tracker). And after 5, they disappear, only to return again. Over and over, the *same* IP's per torrent.-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atkerr Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Actually I seem to be getting bad data from Comcast peers in almost all my torrents (which are from the pointy-eared pitchfork-bearing little green guy tracker). And after 5, they disappear, only to return again. Over and over, the *same* IP's per torrent.-AresMaybe you can use PG to block them as a group - find the lowest and highest IPs from the group and create a personal block list, then add a blocked range (from lowest to highest) and they should never appear again in µTorrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 @atkerr: Unfortunately I also have a lot of Comcast users who send good data. If I block Comcast, I lose a lot of legitimate peers. There should be a way to permanently ban a peer (per session, per torrent) after X amount of hash fails. It's not enough to just boot them out and let them back in again.-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amuro Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 how do u even find out if someones sending bad data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 client depending, it will tell you, in AZureus its in the details of the torrent, it will tell you how much data you've discarded (thrown away because your client didnt ask for it) hash-fails, number of times the piece size, and total (this will be the biggest indicator) Not looked into µTorrent so much, I just leave it running now, unattended.. absolute bliss too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 µTorrent tells you total wasted data and # of hash fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 will have to check that out if/when my torrent box eventually crashes, thanks Firon LOL! 4 weeks uptime, no stagnant connection or anything... µTorrent is so transparent i wouldn't know its running apart from the noisy CPU fan... Need a better one, this crappy motherboard goes by core temperature rather than surface temperature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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