boo Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 to make it simple, unicode makes so that languages that uses other letters tha a-z can now be showed in µTorrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalShrubber Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Wow, I mean, wow. You can't abandon win95/98/Me, that's the fact, it's not professional for product like that. You have to duplicate funtions, maybe put some code infront and after those core functions with some some translating code or just maybe fill those character strings with uncode in 2000/xp/... and with ANSI in 95/98/ME. You ain't gonna abandon support on 98, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 royalshrubber, no one ever said that. he just said unicode builds won't be available for 9x.SledgeDG: he'd have to make a special 9x build for that, since using MSLU requires some (fairly minor) code changes to call unicows.dllI'll suggest it to him and see what he thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cTn Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 thx for explaining what is unicode... but this information still wont help m with m big baad problem : computer stuck when i downloading (( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kookykrazee Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I, first of all, want to thank the developers for this great product. I see great promise for a non-Java based torrent program. I routinely has my system use 450-600M of ram. This program uses only about 15 to 30M and though that is higher than what is advertised, I don't use the program as most people do. I would gladly test the far end of any beta testing that you need as I routinely have 1000-1200 files in my que, though not all active at once.Thanks again,K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Well, 6M is with the "typical" use of a client, with that many torrents the memory use is expected to go higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Currently I am downloading 11 torrent which takes 8-9 MB in memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 The Unicode build has higher memory use, especially with torrents that have lots of files (thousands). Closing the GUI reduces the memory use significantly. mine's using 4.3M with 12 torrents (one being a 6k file torrent) with the GUI closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 ROFL... the single .DLL file alone is bigger than µTorrent.exe itself... Talk about messed-up coding, M$... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey8 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I can confirm that Unicode doesn't work.. Well, atleast for traditional chinese and using WinXP. I'm sure once Unicode is fully implement, the user base will growth, hence DHT will gain many more users.. Like bitcomet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Well, the DLL is actually smaller if it's uncompressed, since µT is about 220KB uncompressed after all plus, it is providing quite a bit of functionality (the entire unicode layer and an interface between unicode and the non-unicode APIs), so the coding's not that inefficient.monkey8: define 'doesn't work'. By the way, if you used any unicode torrents when uT was NOT unicode, there's no guarantee whatsoever that they will work in the Unicode build. In fact, they probably will not work.Try it with new unicode torrents.We already tested it a lot and encountered this, it's unavoidable and unfixable, apart from you going and manually renaming every single file and folder to match the unicode display in the file listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 mine's using 4.3M with 12 torrents (one being a 6k file torrent) with the GUI closed I guess it takes more memory if you download and upload very fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Probably, I'm not downloading right now, just seeding a lone torrent. But seriously, closing the GUI drops the memory use significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I tested it, in system tray it takes 8 MB and haveing the GUI open takes 9 MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Really? I always found it dropped a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey8 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 monkey8: define 'doesn't work'. By the way, if you used any unicode torrents when uT was NOT unicode, there's no guarantee whatsoever that they will work in the Unicode build. In fact, they probably will not work.Try it with new unicode torrents.We already tested it a lot and encountered this, it's unavoidable and unfixable, apart from you going and manually renaming every single file and folder to match the unicode display in the file listing. I paused and took a minute to define 'doesn't work', but I can't.. I guess pictures worth a thousand words.. Edit: the be safe, I even delete \utorrent\ in c:\Documents and Settings\[user name]\Application Data\ To start with, I have nothing on the torrent list. I open a new torrent with files in tranditional chinese. Picture below clearly shows utorrent doesn't recognize unicode.Clicking on Files tab, shows all the files still in "messed-up" letters.I tried the same torrent with bitcomet, it works.Oh well. I got so exicted when I downloaded the beta. I guess there's some more things to work out. Hope to see unicode gets finalized! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twtphw Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I have similar problems with the unicode support because it breaks utorrent's ability to differentiated between ansi and unicode. Before this beta torrents coded in traditional chinese works for me each and everytime because I changed the system language from the Windows Regional and Language Options. Hopefully it's just a bug and not something permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Doesn't BitComet not make torrents in Unicode for Chinese and Japanese code pages?Open that torrent in Azureus and make sure it says [uTF-8] in the code page.If it doesn't, it's not a Unicode torrent. With a proper Unicode torrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledgeDG Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 @Firon: maintaining 2 different Versions is, what M$ tried to solve with this layer (like they ever solved anything in the first place ) so I understand that this call to unicows.dll gets ignored by all versions of NT, W2K, XP Which means, once it's incorporated (provided that is possible at all) you have the desired "one version fits all)Thank god unicows.dll will reside in your systems32 folder thus not bloating µtorrent (which would be a shame.)I wonder, since the problem seems solvable somehow, why friggin' M$ didn't come up with some patch to incorporate it into the OS rather than force programmers to incorporate calls in their programs-DG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Oh, I thought you had to include it with the program. Guess you just need to tell the 9x users to make sure they have that DLL or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey8 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Doesn't BitComet not make torrents in Unicode for Chinese and Japanese code pages?Open that torrent in Azureus and make sure it says [uTF-8] in the code page.If it doesn't, it's not a Unicode torrent. http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/9458/utf8torrent6te.th.gifWith a proper Unicode torrent.I happen to have all the clients installed, so I can test out each one of them.. . here's the screen shot on Azureus in UTF-8:It's set at UTF-8. however, even if I set it to None, it still reconigzes.I even tired Japanese/Simplified chinese/Korean torrents, test it with utorrent-beta-unicode, Azureus and bitcomet. utorrent-beta-unicode doesn't reconigzes any of the languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 it hangs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 are you using win 98 stan?if not, describe it more, maybe even a screenshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 boo, no. Somehow this beta version has corrupted (dunno why) the dht.dat file. I delete that file and everything seems to be right now... But I back to 1.2.2...EDITThank god unicows.dll will reside in your systems32 folder thus not bloating µtorrent (which would be a shame.)yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amonrei Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Yay! Finally i can see the µ instead of a Japanese character in µTorrent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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