KPN Is throttling.

[repeteor]

Time to move to cable.

I have had utorrent constantly on for almost 18 days now and the bast*rds are doing it. When i turn on Encryption i get a major boost ( +- 30 kbs ) and i even connect to more peers, whats up with that ? I should add that they do not do this 24/7, its more between 07:00 am and 20:00pm and mostly at the end of the week ( Thur / Fri ) and i drop down to 9kbs from an average of 86kbs

pete

PS forgot to say that when i use Encryption at the slow times the boost last for 30 mins at the most.

[jewelisheaven]

Feel free to add this to the ISPs thread.

It is possible that running in a minimal mode (connections/upload/download/torrents/noDHT/noresolveIP) may help if their trigger is number of concurrent connections.

If it is bandwidth dependent it is possible that limiting uT to below this may keep you running at "full capacity", but not ensured.

[repeteor]

Hi jewelisheaven

This is a new one !!!

A friend of mine works in IT ( KLM ) and he is convinced that a large number of European ISP's are using " target throttling " wtf ? In his words " They are throttling your ip because your a demanding user " and he says that they are also logging streaming data info per target ip, so they basically know what your downloading, from who and who the original torrent came from. madness !

It's all getting a bit out of hand.

In a few years from now there is going to be global censoring and its going on in England right now, letters being sent out from your ISP because you downloaded copyright material and threating that they will stop your connection and or legal action and i am talking about peeps who grab a game or film once in a while.

Would it not be possible to have utorrent running like KDX for instance because the guys have never gotten heat from anyone for as long as i have been using it ( 1999 ) and i am talking TBs of data.

[jewelisheaven]

WHOA! It's been a LONG time since I've heard of or even thought about Hotline...

Your problem stems from the way the BitTorrent protocol works. It is an open specification (the original spec) of which BitTorrent, Inc. is more-than-likely improving in its own client... The expected handshake messages and encrypted messages will always be existent. As far as the "target throttling" it sounds like they are being very strigent with bandwidth usage outside of their networks.

I have heard from many people that Australia especially suffers from this due to the large amount of traffic headed to/from the USA... AUS has none of it's own backbone from what I understand and as such relies on buying it from other providers. This seems to be a distant memory once the new lines of Trans-Pacific cable open sometime in 2009... but you can't ever be sure about the future until it is now.

And if ISPs start doing that without changing their EULAs I'm almost positive there will be public outrage and in non-militarized countries where the justice system works ... I'd hope there would be reprimands made. An ISP can do whatever it wants explicitly when it is in the agreement you sign when you sign up for their service.

Going back to your mention of KDX from what I see it mainly runs as an encrypted tunnel... of which uT works fine with. Sure you need to have a high-bandwidth proxy for communication, and there's no guarantee you won't be throttled by your ISP (for excessive usage) or suffer shaping due to using protocols they dislike for their high-bandwidth applications... but certainly it offers the same "protection" of "what am i sharing -- it's encrypted communications"

[repeteor]

A torrent is not automatically encrypted going out or coming in and they should have this as standard on utorrent. The thing i still like about KDX ( different from hotline ) is that its underwater and safe, you don't get if you don't give and you get more personal with up loaders and down loaders the longer your on. Torrent sites have become a free for all frenzy and thats why they keep closing them down and the sooner the peeps realize that security is more important than speed and quantity it's always going to be like this.

Every country on the map will change ( a lot are in the process of doing so ) it's laws to stop dlrs and then what ? we are all going to buckle and pay for over priced eye candy.

If it all keeps going the way it is, we wont even have utorrent.