Core Posted January 4, 2008 Report Posted January 4, 2008 (NOTE: I understand my post is kinda long so I've taken the initiative of highlighting the main part in bold for your convenience.)Man let me just say utorrent rock my socks off!I was a user of bitcomet for a long long time but lately it went bonkers on me and slowed down my dl to a crawl, no matter what settings i experimented with it just doesn't work like before.. so off I went in search of another bt client and seeing that utorrent seems to be the other popular p2p program out there, i decided to give it a shot.NO tweakings whatsoever, and its already faster than bc by what? 4x? holy... excellent job peeps! thanks!Praises aside, I'm having a slight concern which I can't seem to get out of my head, its regarding the speed guide settings,I tested my isp's speed over at speedtest.net, 28ms ping and it gave me on average ~8000kbps download and ~246kbps uploadSo I chose the nearest preset available, which was 10Mbit (since 2Mbit seems kinda.. off to me.)After monitoring the overall dl and ul speed of utorrent with 3 simultaneous downloads, I get about, on average:~20kBps dl , ~25kBps ulTo me, thats quite an improvement but what I'm really concern about is whether this average speed is erm... healthy and/or normal? call it 'beginner paranoia' if you will, but well this is my first time using utorrent.and one more thing,I noticed a slightly longer load time while surfing the net, is there any way this can be remedied? Of cause its nothing really impt so if there isn't then I can live with it no problem.Thanks for taking the time to read my post and I appreciate any help rendered.
Dr Donut Man Posted January 4, 2008 Report Posted January 4, 2008 You have to choose the one with xx/your upload speed in the speed guide (ctrl+g), Not your download speed.And with your Ul/Dl speeds it looks like you have cable, If so check the sticky to see if your ISP blocks/throttles p2p.
Core Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Posted January 4, 2008 oh... ok thanks for pointing that out, hell now that you'd mentioned it i wonder how i got the dl and ul settings mixed up, no wonder I felt strange when the max upload speed was capped at 1120. anyways,after changing to the appropriate speed guide settings, I noticed that the total ul and dl speed started to shoot up gradually, now its about ~36kBps dl ~21.5kBps ul but its too early to tell so i'll monitor it for awhile until it stabilizes. but the question is still, what speed should i be getting on average?I understand most of the time it depends on the seeds and the peers ya on but I was wondering whether there's something like a benchmark for stuffs like this?anyways now my internet browsing is much better. thanks!and after checking out the azuresWiki - Bad ISPs list, my ISP is listed, but I'm not sure how to see whether its throttling my speed? Mind helping a noob here?http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs#SingaporeStarhub, Singapore.Thanks for reading!add on: woah! 300+ kB/s dl! cool!lol ok i understand its nothing compared to people who live in places with bigger pipes and more powerful ISPs, but over here, this speed is pretty much considered very high.
Dr Donut Man Posted January 4, 2008 Report Posted January 4, 2008 A benchmark is this 3.xxGb ISO from Slackware Linux:http://www.slackware.com/torrents/slackware-12.0-install-dvd.torrentIt'll max out your DL in about 10 minutes.
jewelisheaven Posted January 4, 2008 Report Posted January 4, 2008 You can also check out the new PRE-BETA 1.8 line here It includes some workarounds for traffic shaping, and I'm not sure how many people in highly impacted countries like malaysia and singapore have tried it. Feel free to post here, or in the better encryption thread which I think spawned the collaborative efforts to emulate the high sustained speeds even when on shaped ISPs.
Core Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 tried downloading the 3.xxGb ISO from Slackware Linux, noticed a slight increase in speed compared to other torrents after about 10mins, but not sure why it doesn't max out my connection.just tried using beta(alpha?) build 7491, at first it doesn't really make any diff, but after forcing outgoing protocol encryption and unchecking legacy connectons, speed shot up to on average ~65kB/s dl , 22kB/s ul with 4 torrents downloading, but kinda fluctuating now. I'll test the slackware Linux again and see how it goes.
jewelisheaven Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 Yea it really depends on the limitations your ISP is putting on your line, For the most restrictive and least interference, the Forced encryption and disabling of "legacy connections" is the way to go. But I would say going from under 30 to 60 KiBps download is a good jump. If you are setup for your uploading Ctrl-P -> Queueing settings to have at most 5 torrents running at once with 2 upload slots I think that's fair. I generally try to keep 5 KiBps available (which on your line means 6 slots) per peer I upload to. Splitting that as many ways as I like among TORRENTS * SLOTS allows me to change things around if I like a particular torrent.Did you notice around what time you got the 3Mbit download speed (300 KiBps)? If you have an 8 Mbit line, theoretically you can download that fast, but you probably will only rarely hit half of that, due to the ISPs around you not liking much traffic aside from HTTP. :/ It really is a shame the workarounds didn't work much better, perhaps it is due to line congestion in your area. Trying the downloads for 2-5 minutes at various times during the day and week may help you figure out when your ISP hard caps your speeds.
Core Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Posted January 5, 2008 ahh thanks jewel, an informative read, I'd keep that in mind. Anyways, been using bt for a long time and i've noticed that whenever I have good speed, its usually after midnight.. Probably after 12am to 6am? peaking at around 3am.it was so too ytd, had the 3KiBps speed at around 3am +.well good news though, I did kinda left the beta there for awhile and right now it averages about ~120kB/s dl constantly, shooting up to ~400kB/s for awhile.again, with 4 simultaneous downloads. its interesting to note that during the 400kB/s peak, the torrents that contributed most to that speed was mostly from local peers, so i guess the local peer discovery option really helps alot for me.overall im pretty much satisfied with the speed I'm having now compared to back then. So I'll just leave it at that for now.Thanks for your help jewel and those who took the time to read but didnt reply anyways, and a big thumbs up to all utorrent devs! PS: Tried downloading the slackware again, this time the dl speed was much better at 100+kB/s after 10mins. didn't let it stay for long since im pretty satisfied. thanks Mr donut man!
Switeck Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 Do note that given your limited upload speed that your connection (even if it wasn't throttled in any way) is only rated for 2 torrents at once. Otherwise, your upload speed to others becomes so low it can even break compatibility with the BitTorrent protocol.If you're always uploading at 25 KiloBYTES/sec, then if you have 2 torrents with 3 upload slots each...that means your upload speed is quite likely split 6 ways (to 6 peers at once). So others only see your connection as a ~4.1 KiloBYTES/sec download on average. But that's assuming you're reaching the max upload speed you set 100% of the time. Below 1 KiloBYTE/sec, even TCP/IP networking can start to have trouble.
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