DeBo Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 I've been using the standard bittorrent client for a number of years, but as of late I've tried a number of different clients, such as Azureus, ABCtorrent, Deluge and a few others.Now my question is security...How secure are they , I mean with respect with my ISP seeing what I'm downloading and how much etc... ( with respect to the new EU directive). and the fact that the ISP's have started limiting the bandwidths etc. for torrent traffic.Now I know this might be the wrong place to ask this question, but which client is better. I mean granted ,a horde of fan boys (people ) will now flood it with the benefits to utorrent. But I need some concrete arguments for why or why not?is there a security benefit in one client that isn't found here (yet) and so on...Major difference between :AzureusBittcometDeluge uTorrentTransmissionetcAnd please people keep it clean, I'm not looking for fan-reply ... I'm just looking for the most secure and effective client. That will give me what I need in the best manner.Now if there are other security improving suggestions, please let me know.And to the Dev's , big shout!!! Nice client!!! Cheers and regardsDeBo
jewelisheaven Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 BitTorrent is not an anonymous protocol. To keep others from sniffing your stream you want to do "full stream encryption" on your torrent client. To keep your ISP from shaping/throttling your connection (directions apply to uT, but the theories behind it based upon the BitTorrent primer -Guides page link #2-should work just as well on any client)... follow the How-To post #2 "recommended limited settings".
DeBo Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 full stream encryption?? In uTorrent?Btw thanks for the fast reply!!
jewelisheaven Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 uT either encrypts the stream or it doesn't. It will never dis-allow incoming encrypted connections. You can however disallow unencrypted connections by unticking "allow legacy incoming". To see the encryption status (if you just say Enabled under Ctrl-P -> BitTorrent) to test client support... go to the Peers tab and look for "e" or "E", as the http://utorrent.com/faq.php#What_do_all_those_flags_in_the_Flags_column_mean.3F states those are header-only, or full encryption Edit:
DeBo Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 "(directions apply to uT, but the theories behind it based upon the BitTorrent primer -Guides page link #2-should work just as well on any client)... follow the How-To post #2 "recommended limited settings"." <<--- I can't find the guide you are refering to....Yeah I'm a wee bit slow today....-DeBo
Lord Alderaan Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 µtorrent/BitTorrent encryption is to circumvent traffic throttling. Not for security.VPN provides some degree of security (Especially from your ISP. Less so from the authorities.), it encrypts all traffic between you and the VPN server. However VPN connections are slow or expensive and more often then not you cannot forward the µtorrent port.
DeBo Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 so is there realy anything one can do to protect one self from snooping eyes? Granted been thinking about the VPn solution , but couldn't really get anything to work properly....
DreadWingKnight Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 Stop trying to download content that is being watched by those snooping eyes
DeBo Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 anything a wee bit more...shall we say...flexible....
Switeck Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 BitTorrent WORKS by having the trackers, seeds, and peers knowing the other seeds and peers ip addresses. Encryption DOES NOT HIDE THAT!What you want is vaguely like trying to have an anonymous mailbox and then still demanding people who don't know the address send mail to you.
DeBo Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 easy there lads, easy.... I was just asking about the options that are available. One never knows with modern tech.I'm just trying to cover as many angles as possible.....for god sakes lads, you can't blame a poor sod for trying.Cheers
Firon Posted January 17, 2008 Report Posted January 17, 2008 A VPN is basically your only way to be secure.
xocsucram Posted January 19, 2008 Report Posted January 19, 2008 the biggest diffence between them is that uTorrent isnt a Java application so it runs faster and requires less CPU usage, main reason i stopped using Vuze(azureus) but even with my new laptop with dual AMD processors i still havent gone back cause 1. Vuze really makes things more complicated than they need to be with all their options and their interface.uTorrent has been great for me, use Encryption to boost your speeds but dont set it to Forced cause it could slow you down if none of the peers are using Encryptionand like i said in the other thread, if you're worried about security, stop using public torrent sites/trackers, find underground forums that have people who either do it themselfs or know people that created and track the torrents privately.
DeBo Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Posted January 19, 2008 What about "Tor" and i2p? I've only heard of them in passing so l'm unsure if it applies in my case.
DreadWingKnight Posted January 19, 2008 Report Posted January 19, 2008 tor is a bad thing to use, since they don't have the infrastructure to support any p2p traffic.Why private trackers aren't any safer than public ones
johns Posted February 4, 2008 Report Posted February 4, 2008 Hi,I am wondering if a program like "Hide the IP" would work in securing your privacy.It apparantly redirects you ip address through a proxy and reports the proxy ip address to the world. Not sure whether it works with uTorrent etc.Just a thought.John S.
DeBo Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Posted February 4, 2008 yeah, I've been wondering the same thing. And what sort of impact would it have on the bandwith?? (and thereby on the dl speed)
DreadWingKnight Posted February 4, 2008 Report Posted February 4, 2008 It wouldn't provide any real amount of privacy.The impact on bandwidth would be massive(ly negative).
DeBo Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Posted February 4, 2008 Damn fast reply, but yeah I figured as much. Anyone tried Relakks ( spelling), that swedish vpn thingy...any good, hard to setup,etc??
shadowman12 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 I've all of a sudden had a problem with security. Rogers sent me an email sayin how I was infringing on copyright material and that they're giving me a warning, and if I did it agan, they were going to sue me. This happened once before a year ago when I was using Azureus, but only because I forget to check encryption. But now, encryption is on. I don't know what to do, is it because I had "Allow Incoming Legacy Conections" checked? Someone help!
DreadWingKnight Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 Invasion of privacy, criminal trespass, illegal investigation, etc etc.
Firon Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 Encryption will not help you in the least.
DeBo Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Posted February 5, 2008 Then what will, aside from "stop using bittorrent" comments ,actually improve or augment security??
jewelisheaven Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 BitTorrent is not anonrmous... PERIOD! http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=298516#p298516
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