Settings for 20mbit/768kbps connection (virgin UK) ?

[gsg]

Hi guys, I have 20mbit download (2300-2400kB/s) and 768kbps (90ish kB/s) connection from Virgin UK..

I was wondering if there was anyone else on this forum using same ISP, and i wanted to ask what settings (global connections etc) work best..if anyone knows

i have change tcp half settings to 50, global connections is like on 1200 at the moment...and per torrent it is 800...upload connections is 20..

[torrero]

xx/768k in the speed guide. Then tweaking is up to you.

[AllGamer]

Sweet!!!, is it a true 20 Mbit?

that's nice

i'm on a 10 Mbits / 896 Kbits, and i'm super happy

although advertised is 896 up, i often see it go as high as 1.8 ~ 2.0 Mbits up

i can only get max 10 Mbits down, when i close down all other connections, and download via FTP

using uT at its fullest and i barely consume 5 Mbits only

i have set Max Global to 3000,

100 max connection per torrent (true is you will rarely see it past 55)

100 upload/download slots per torrent (the highest i've seen is 20 slots in use)

then speed wise, it's unlimited up and down, scheduled during time no one uses the internet, and set to 100 kB/s upload (seed) during busy internet usage, download remains unlimited.

super happy

[gsg]

yep it is true speed. On newsgroups i get constant 20mbit... i just decided to use torrents for a few things (asian movies HK, KO, JAP etc)

thx for the help guys

btw where is this speed guide?

[AllGamer]

forget speed guide, use manual config

it's better for us, with true speed

(the speed guide is in the top menu of uT)

*uT = uTorrent

but before you do, what ROUTER do you use?

make sure your router can handle more than 100 connections.

I'm using the Linksys WRT54GS using the DD-WRT latest firmware from Jan / 2008

simply sweet! never been happier.

[gsg]

Im connected Direct, no router .. No need to foward any ports etc..

funny thing is...i have another 20mb connection going through the exact same router with the exact same fw lol

[AllGamer]

of if that is the case, then just use those settings i mentioned

3000

100

100

(that translates into 30 torrents download/upload at the same time)

just make sure your windows TCP is patched to allow "unlimited" connections

[Switeck]

You must HATE who you're uploading to!

30 torrents at once...and at least 2 upload slots per torrent.

Are you giving them even 1 KiloBYTES/sec?

[gsg]

dude help me out then please..lol what settings will be good for me and fair to others?

[jewelisheaven]

Reset your Speed Guide to xx/768, or use Ctrl-P -> BitTorrent and use something SANE like 20% of active peers per torrent get a slot and reduce the number of active torrents so that SLOTS*TOTAL_TORRENTS = 20

[AllGamer]

yup my average seed is 15 kB/s per torrent of those 30 active torrents

and per slot, it depends how fast they are, the wider their pipe the more they get

i left both speed on unlimited, so it's always going up and down depending how fast the people can download from me.

average global seed is 130 kB/s and average grobal download is 300 kB/s

i've seen independent client slots (i seed them) downloading around 90 kB/s from me, so that's pretty good.

most of the ones i noticed have less than 10 kB/s download from me.

so i don't see any problem there when both in/out are going smoothly

[Switeck]

"most of the ones i noticed have less than 10 kB/s download from me."

On average, they should get at least 1 KiloBYTE/sec at ABSOLUTE minimum.

...and 3 KiloBYTE/sec or more to be fair.

Currently your settings prevent that.

[AllGamer]

o_0

i don't follow isn't 10 greater than 1 or 3 ???

[Switeck]

Actually, you're confusing peak values for upload slots for average.

The settings you mentioned:

"i have set Max Global to 3000,

100 max connection per torrent (true is you will rarely see it past 55)

100 upload/download slots per torrent (the highest i've seen is 20 slots in use)

(that translates into 30 torrents download/upload at the same time)

then speed wise, it's unlimited up and down, scheduled during time no one uses the internet, and set to 100 kB/s upload (seed) during busy internet usage, download remains unlimited."

The problem with that is you're devoting ONLY 100 KiloBYTES/sec upload speed, yet splitting it potentially 3000 ways (30 torrents times 100 upload slots PER torrent)! That's an average upload speed per upload slot of 0.033 KiloBYTES/sec! So from an average downloader point of view, your connection's upload looks worse than dial-up.

Even assuming only 2 torrents running at once and 20 upload slots for each, that's still only 2.5 KiloBYTES/sec average upload speed per upload slot.

For every peer who manages to download faster than 3 KiloBYTES/sec, there's probably 2 or more that don't (and can't) break 1 KiloBYTE/sec.

If you're only uploading at 100 KiloBYTES/sec, to actually be giving out ~3 KiloBYTES/sec per upload slot, you'd need settings more like this:

Max Connections: 300

Max connections per Torrent: 40

Upload Slots per Torrent: 4

Max active torrents: 8

Max active downloading torrents: 6

[AllGamer]

ah... yes that is true, of the bunch that are downloading from me the vary in ranges from 0.3kB/s to 90 kB/s and well i always though it was depending on who has the biggest pipe on their end for download, the average on most slots is around 1.3 kB/s

and yes the more active torrents usually are under 0.something, except for those that have high download pipeline, but the torrents with less seed/peer usually has higher output, since they have less peers to split it with.

since the speed auto manages itself, i though that was OK, since they are always dynamically going as high as 130 kB/s and less than 1 kB/s depending on peers, never though it was a config problem.

well the nice thing is, i don't usually use up all my 30 connections for downloads, i only seed that many at a time, when i download i usually stop everything else, and channel everything to 1 slot

mostly because most old torrents are usually iddle, so uT keeps rotating the queued torrents until it seeds one that people need and so on, so even though i set the queue for 30, it doesn't really have all 30 going on at the same time, usually less than that i'll say average 15 seedings are active at any given moment, so it's safe from my point of view.

[Switeck]

"well the nice thing is, i don't usually use up all my 30 connections for downloads, i only seed that many at a time, when i download i usually stop everything else, and channel everything to 1 slot"

You mean 3000 connections, not 30 connections?

Or 30 torrents max instead of 30 connections max is probably what you meant?

Each torrent tries to have its own separate upload slots, cutting into your upload speed.

Setting upload slots to 1 while seeding will ironically cause lots of seeding torrents to be uploading at 0 speed for at least part of the time, even when you are connected to peers on those torrents who wish to download from you. This is because the single peer on each torrent that uTorrent is attempting to upload to at any given moment may be slow to respond.

At the least, try lowering upload slots per torrent to 3-10...it should help others out and hurt your download speeds little to none. It may even improve download speeds on marginal torrents with few seeds.

[AllGamer]

oh i have no problem with speeds at all,

but following what you said about adjusting the amount of "upload Slots per torrent" from 100 to less, it did help the upload to go 1+ kB/s for those that previously had -1 kB/s

son in a way now i can seed almost as fast as i download, and it keeps my ratios in good shape

before i was consuming ratio like there's no tomorrow, meanwhile the good ratio wasn't moving much

it was like 1 step forward (upload) and 2 steps back (download)

now is more 1 step and 1 step