n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 I tried to do it through this web site http://portforward.com/help/doublerouterportforwarding.htm but I couldn't get it to work. Has anyone else ever done double port forwarding and if so could you give me a hand? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjdslafjdsklaa Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Are you talking about having uTorrent listen on two ports? If so, I don't think its possible.What would be the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 What he means is he has a double NAT. ECG, what are the two routers you have? And do you have computers connected to both routers? Or is it router > router > All your computers? If you have computers on both routers, how many do you have, and can you put them all on one router? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Here's my setup. Internet (Verizon DSL) > Westell wirespeed 6100 modem > Dynex DX-E401 router (one computer and one router connected) > Netgear WPN824v2 router > uTorrent computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 So, it's a modem and 2 routers? Make sure it's not a triple NAT, on the first router, look for WAN IP, possibly in a top corner or on a status page. What are the first 2 or 3 numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 In the 1st router (Dynex) WAN settings the IP adress is 0.0.0.0. Should I change it from Dynamic PPPoE to Static PPPoE? If so what would I change it to? The settings for my modem say the connection is a PPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 um, 0.0.0.0? That, is odd. Where is the login information for your ISP entered, in the modem, one of the routers, or a computer? And do you have bridge mode set somewhere in one of those routers or the modem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 The only login info i know of is a username and password. I don't know anything about bridge mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 And where is the login information saved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Router 1. But I don't need that router to connect, the modem was provided by the ISP.The first two numbers of router 1's WAN IP are 71. I was looking in WAN setup and it was in status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 If you need to login though then it's required for using the service. Having a WAN IP of 0.0.0.0 isn't right though, and you wont be able to forward with an address like that. Look to see if it or your modem is in bridge mode. I'm looking at a Dynex manual but it doesn't seem to have Dynamic/Static PPPoE, just PPPoE. If you can't find bridge, check the IP again, in the WAN area, status tab, you can't forward to 0.0.0.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 the WAN IP is 71.xxx.xx.xx (the x's are numbers obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 And that's for the first router? If yes, then it makes sense. What's the LAN IP for the first router, and the WAN and LAN IP's for the second router, all of those should start with 192.168. You need to have the first router port forward to the second router, then have the second router port forward to the µT computer. If the address of the second router is dynamic though, you need to configure a static one, the same should also be done for the µT PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Yes it's the first one. Are you saying that the WAN and LAN IP's of R2 should start with 192.168? The LAN IP for R1 is 192.168.0.1. I already made the IP addresses of R2 and the µT computer static. On R2 i have a LAN port and an Internet port which i'm assuming is WAN correct?Now it says the port is open but I could have sworn I did this exact same thing before and after a bit it wasn't open anymore.And really thanks for all your help. It's greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Right. On router one, forward the port you chose to router 2's WAN address, in router 2, forward the port to your computer address. A "port forwarding chain" as some call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Did that and and it seems to be working (the port is open) although I'm not seeing a speed difference.Oh now the port is closed again.And it's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Port forwarding doesn't give you an instant speed boost. It makes you more connectable, which means you have more potential sources for your data.Just to be sure... did you set a static IP up for your computer outside of the router's DHCP range, and make the inner router have a static IP outside of the outer router's DHCP range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 How do you find out the DHCP range and which router is inner or outer? The one closest to the modem or my computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Inner is the one closer to your computer, yes. DHCP range can be found in the router configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 The inner and outer router's IP are in the same DHCP range but my computer is not. Can I change it to anything inside the DHCP range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Make sure you forward TCP and UDP, if you have a both option, that should work. Also, the DHCP range is normally 100-149. In the router it'll either be a range, or a starting address with the number or allowed clients. You want an address outside the DHCP range, and lower then 255. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Heh, it seems you are triple-NAT'd. The Westell does act as a router as well. You've got one heck of a network setup there... Any reason you need all three routers?You need to set the IPs to be outside the DHCP range, not inside. You'll need to do it for all devices behind NATs (the Dynex, the Netgear, and your computer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 so if my pc's ip is 192.168.5.136 and the router is 192.168.0.100 it should be ok?My Internet connection comes in through the garage to the modem which connects to the dynex router that sends it to rooms inside the house. In one of those rooms there is a wireless router (Netgear). That's why it's so convoluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 ... Check the user manual's advanced port forwarding guide. IMHO, it describes double/multi-NAT more clearly than the portforward.com guide.Each device needs to have a static IP outside of their respective router's DHCP range -- there isn't much else that can be said about that O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1nA8RFL Posted March 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 I tried that user manual but none of the entries would load.So what do I have to do to the modem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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