erez_hazan Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I Can't take it anymore!! i am turning on the Utorrent and (inemeantime it's downloading ok) after a few hours it's freezez my computer (i tried also without the firewall and the Anti-Virus)....someone can give me please a solution for this situation(Soory on my bad writing.....)info::windows xp pro sp2----Connecting from a wireless network:: Netgear wgt624 v3 -=-----thanks very much for all halpers!!! :):D:P:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 post a hijackthis log and a process explorer process list with injected dlls.When you say "without the firewall and anti-virus" did you uninstall them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 an hijackthis log::Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2Scan saved at 01:59:46, on 17/04/2008Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16640)Boot mode: NormalRunning processes:C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exeC:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exeC:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exeC:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXEC:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exeC:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliType Pro\itype.exeC:\Program Files\Intel\IDU\iptray.exeC:\Program Files\IVT Corporation\BlueSoleil\BtTray.exeC:\WINDOWS\vVX3000.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exec:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliType Pro\dpupdchk.exeC:\Program Files\NETGEAR\WG111T\wlan111t.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exeC:\Program Files\Intel\IDU\awServ.exeC:\Program Files\IVT Corporation\BlueSoleil\BlueSoleilCS.exeC:\Program Files\Diskeeper Corporation\Diskeeper\DkService.exec:\Program Files\Microsoft LifeCam\MSCamS32.exeC:\Program Files\Nero\Nero8\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exeC:\Program Files\SigmaTel\C-Major Audio\WDM\STacSV.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exeC:\Program Files\IVT Corporation\BlueSoleil\BsHelpCS.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exeC:\Program Files\Nero\Nero8\Nero Burning Rom\nero.exeC:\Program Files\Common Files\Nero\Lib\NMIndexingService.exeC:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exeC:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exeR1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.walla.co.ilR1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dllO2 - BHO: flashget urlcatch - {2F364306-AA45-47B5-9F9D-39A8B94E7EF7} - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jccatch.dllO2 - BHO: (no name) - {33557206-8531-4B43-A9D6-A0E1A071AA4D} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\imeshase.dllO2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dllO2 - BHO: FlashGet GetFlash Class - {F156768E-81EF-470C-9057-481BA8380DBA} - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\getflash.dllO4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartupO4 - HKLM\..\Run: [intelliPoint] "c:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe"O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [itype] "c:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliType Pro\itype.exe"O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ipTray.exe] "C:\Program Files\Intel\IDU\iptray.exe"O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LifeCam] "c:\Program Files\Microsoft LifeCam\LifeExp.exe"O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [btTray] "C:\Program Files\IVT Corporation\BlueSoleil\BtTray.exe"O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VX3000] C:\WINDOWS\vVX3000.exeO4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exeO4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SYSTEM')O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'Default user')O4 - Global Startup: NETGEAR WG111T Smart Wizard.lnk = ?O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download All with FlashGet - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jc_all.htmO8 - Extra context menu item: &Download with FlashGet - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\jc_link.htmO9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dllO9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dllO9 - Extra button: מחקר - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLLO9 - Extra button: ICQ Lite - {B863453A-26C3-4e1f-A54D-A2CD196348E9} - C:\Program Files\ICQLite\ICQLite.exeO9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ICQ Lite - {B863453A-26C3-4e1f-A54D-A2CD196348E9} - C:\Program Files\ICQLite\ICQLite.exeO9 - Extra button: FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\FlashGet.exeO9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\Program Files\FlashGet\FlashGet.exeO9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exeO9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exeO10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\windows\system32\nwprovau.dllO16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1206192928171O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exeO23 - Service: Admin Works Agent X8 (AWService) - OSA Technologies Inc., An Avocent Company - C:\Program Files\Intel\IDU\awServ.exeO23 - Service: BlueSoleilCS - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\IVT Corporation\BlueSoleil\BlueSoleilCS.exeO23 - Service: BsHelpCS - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\IVT Corporation\BlueSoleil\BsHelpCS.exeO23 - Service: Diskeeper - Diskeeper Corporation - C:\Program Files\Diskeeper Corporation\Diskeeper\DkService.exeO23 - Service: Nero BackItUp Scheduler 3 - Nero AG - C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero8\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exeO23 - Service: NMIndexingService - Nero AG - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Nero\Lib\NMIndexingService.exeO23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exeO23 - Service: SigmaTel Audio Service (STacSV) - SigmaTel, Inc. - C:\Program Files\SigmaTel\C-Major Audio\WDM\STacSV.exe--End of file - 6604 bytesan process explorer log:: Process PID CPU Description Company NameSystem Idle Process 0 94.70 Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts DPCs n/a 1.52 Deferred Procedure Calls System 4 smss.exe 632 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation csrss.exe 884 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation winlogon.exe 912 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation services.exe 956 0.76 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1144 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1192 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1336 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation wscntfy.exe 2600 Windows Security Center Notification App Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1472 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation svchost.exe 1560 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation aawservice.exe 1732 Ad-Aware 2007 Service Lavasoft spoolsv.exe 584 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation awServ.exe 688 AdminWorks Agent OSA Technologies Inc., An Avocent Company BlueSoleilCS.exe 740 BlueSoleilCS Module DkService.exe 776 Diskeeper Service Diskeeper Corporation MSCamS32.exe 836 MsCamSvc.exe Microsoft Corporation NBService.exe 876 Nero BackItUp Nero AG nvsvc32.exe 1268 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 169.21 NVIDIA Corporation stacsv.exe 1448 STacSV Module SigmaTel, Inc. svchost.exe 176 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation BsHelpCS.exe 1416 BsHelpCS Module alg.exe 2296 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation NMIndexingService.exe 2968 Nero Home Nero AG lsass.exe 968 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporationexplorer.exe 1932 0.76 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation ipoint.exe 2000 IPoint.exe Microsoft Corporation itype.exe 2012 IType.exe Microsoft Corporation dpupdchk.exe 244 dpupdchk.exe Microsoft Corporation iptray.exe 160 Tray Program for Intel® Desktop Utilities OSA Technologies Inc., An Avocent Company BtTray.exe 188 BlueSoleil Bttray vVX3000.exe 204 Microsoft LifeCam Device Application Microsoft Corporation ctfmon.exe 212 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation wlan111t.exe 264 Netgear MFC Application NETGEAR iexplore.exe 3880 Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation procexp.exe 960 0.76 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals uTorrent.exe 3580 1.52 Process: uTorrent.exe Pid: 3580Name Description Company Name VersionACTIVEDS.dll ADs Router Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180adsldpc.dll ADs LDAP Provider C DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180ADVAPI32.dll Advanced Windows 32 Base API Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180ATL.DLL ATL Module for Windows XP (Unicode) Microsoft Corporation 3.05.2284.0000c_1252.nls COMCTL32.dll User Experience Controls Library Microsoft Corporation 6.00.2900.2982comdlg32.dll Common Dialogs DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.00.2900.2180ctype.nls DNSAPI.dll DNS Client API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.3316GDI32.dll GDI Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.3316hnetcfg.dll Home Networking Configuration Manager Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180IMM32.DLL Windows XP IMM32 API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180Iphlpapi.dll IP Helper API Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2912kernel32.dll Windows NT BASE API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.3119locale.nls LPK.DLL Language Pack Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180MPRAPI.dll Windows NT MP Router Administration DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180MSCTF.dll MSCTF Server DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180msctfime.ime Microsoft Text Frame Work Service IME Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180msvcrt.dll Windows NT CRT DLL Microsoft Corporation 7.00.2600.2180mswsock.dll Microsoft Windows Sockets 2.0 Service Provider Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180NETAPI32.dll Net Win32 API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2976ntdll.dll NT Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180ole32.dll Microsoft OLE for Windows Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2726OLEAUT32.dll Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.3266rasadhlp.dll Remote Access AutoDial Helper Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2938RPCRT4.dll Remote Procedure Call Runtime Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.3173rtutils.dll Routing Utilities Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180SAMLIB.dll SAM Library DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180Secur32.dll Security Support Provider Interface Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180SETUPAPI.dll Windows Setup API Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180SHELL32.dll Windows Shell Common Dll Microsoft Corporation 6.00.2900.3241SHLWAPI.dll Shell Light-weight Utility Library Microsoft Corporation 6.00.2900.2995sortkey.nls sorttbls.nls unicode.nls USER32.dll Windows XP USER API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.3099USP10.dll Uniscribe Unicode script processor Microsoft Corporation 1.420.2600.2180uTorrent.exe uxtheme.dll Microsoft UxTheme Library Microsoft Corporation 6.00.2900.2180winrnr.dll LDAP RnR Provider DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180WLDAP32.dll Win32 LDAP API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180WS2_32.dll Windows Socket 2.0 32-Bit DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180WS2HELP.dll Windows Socket 2.0 Helper for Windows NT Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180wshtcpip.dll Windows Sockets Helper DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.01.2600.2180i meant that i uninstall Anti-Virus and my Firewall is windows firewall(turned off)...waiting for next for post--thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 :/ Intellitype or Nero Scout are first thoughts.Next would be Netgear wireless "helper" app.Then those "ipoint" "itray" etc microsoft processes... since when did MS takeover intellipoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 ipoint - my mouse programitray - my keyboard program----i didn't find any Nero Scout in the log...and i dont care about it so much....---actually there was a time that my computer didn't freeze(happy time:D:D)and in that the the Netgear wireless "helper" wasen't on...----thanks for your help but i dont think it will help me that much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Well you have Nero BackItUp and as I understand it, all that nero stuff is bundled together... it was something to check.As far as netgear driver, if you don't need it turn it off... Are you only connecting via wireless card?What about over USB dongle adapter.Those input devices are last but not completely uncommon to cause problems. Unfortunately nothing is hooking into uT for a more exacting troubleshooting list. You need to turn off services and programs until the problem stops. This can be accomplished rather easily through start->run->msconfig and turn things off one by one as it freezes windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 ...Leave the nero for now it's not important for me as the utorrent issue...i need the Netgear driver because i am connecting from a USB dongle adapter and the driver installation give's me a helper program (that i now don't use) ...but never mined...I am i little noobey so you can give more specific on how can i do it....(again I am sorry on my bad english)....and another quistion:: --I am without Anti-Virus and i whanted to know if the Anti-Virus can make the freeze(I am talking about the Kaspersky Internet Security)Thanks and have a good day!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 You might be able to disable the Netgear controller and use the Windows config, while I do prefer the standard software, I found a USB Belkin causing crashes and it actually degraded network performance on the computer, switching to the Windows config helped the system, and the same might be true for the Netgear. Look for a setting in the Netgear, if not, Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Right-click the wireless > Properties > One of those tabs lets you set the Windows configurer as default, and enter network settings.. usually.Kaspersky anti-virus (not Internet security), from a multi-software review, has the highest/one-of-the-highest detection rates, need to disable Web-scanning though. avast!, in the same article, had the highest rate of detection of free AV's, and only rated under another one for its "confusing interface", which honestly isn't very intuitive. I think the article is a year or two old though :/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 ammm.... i think i will uninstall the program and I will take only the driver it'self and add it to the hardware then let's see...i don't belive it will help me though:/...---it doesen't answer on my question on if the "Kaspersky" can make the freeze on my comp .... and what are you meaning by saying "need to disable Web-scanning though" - why do i need do disable it?? won't it harm my computer??--And can i have please the URL for the articlethanks all :) and again have a good day!!:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Web scanning scans HTTP, but I stopped liking it the moment it gave a false positive. It's not needed anyway. I've also found that Kaspersky Internet Security can lag the computer a bit.I can't find the article with multiple reviews, and like I said these are kinda old, http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130873/article.html and http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130908/article.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 But Web scanning scan viruses in the web...(i think) if there is some sites that contains viruses (like sex sites =D=D). --Kaspersky Internet Security can lag the computer alot!! and takes alot of CPU Usage from the comp...but then again it's a very good Anti-Virus. --- Thanks on the articles--....----and then again you didn't answer me about my question on if the "Kaspersky" can make the freeze on my comp.....thanks man :) and again have a good day!!:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Unfortunately the suite is not covered at http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=7862IIRC you can just disable the web scanning for utorrent.exe, which significantly reduces the CPU % load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 "IIRC you can just disable the web scanning for utorrent.exe" --How can i do it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 What sort of freezing? Hard lockup, or blue screen of death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 neither one of these it just stuck... without no blue screen and no error massage just stuck and i can do only restart.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Hmm, a lockup like that is more indicative of a hardware problem, like failing RAM or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 No way man it's a new computer -- I have it only 4 month's and everything i allright ...ammm... I think you didn't understand me... i have the freeze only when the utorrent is on.... if it was keep on freezing olso without turning on the utorrent i waren't braking my had... I would go straight to the computer place... (i have insurance like for another 3 years.... Any more suggestion for my problem...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 New computer doesn't mean anything. Stuff fails, and it often fails early. Torrent clients are taxing on system hardware, and they will make problems come to light when other software doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 but why --only!! --when utorrent is on it get's freeze and when it's not on it doesn't freeze...i am playing alot of heavy games and non of them doing for me any problem's....you realy think it's a ram problem....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Try removing nero back it up and ad-aware. Then check to see if your IDE/SATA are set to UDMA6 in the device manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 i once removed this services and after it, it did me alot of problems....----no: my IDE/SATA is not set to UDMA6 ----why what does it do??----and by the way what is the reccomended half-open number?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTHK Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 If the controllers are currently PIO with DMA/UDMA set, uninstall them and restart. Also, half-open should be left at default unless otherwise instructed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I uninstall the "program helper" and stayed only with the driver..and it still freeze!!!--I will try to work it on the defaults settings... and i will see if it works...-- Mybe it's because my half-open number was 900...??----And mybe my router is not good...?? should i buy new one??---And how I can i set my IDE/SATA to UDMA6??Thanks for all and have i very good day!! :) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 If "Current Transfer Mode" is PIO, you need to delete that driver for your hard disk controlllers. When you re-add it, it should start in UDMA. If not, you have hard drive problems.Did you change back half-open to 8 before the last crash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erez_hazan Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 But how can i get to it??----- There is a patch that crack the half-open number and i setet it to 1000 now i setet back to the default (50) and in the utorrent i chacne it to 8 and i will see if it will crash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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