ph3412 Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 im running mac osx and live in canada and ive always wondered: if i download a movie what are the chances i could get caught? and if i do get caught what are the penalities?thanks so much im new to all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobseeder Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Use PeerGuadian2 http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/Join and read up on thier Forums.. USefull info they got over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 the changes of getting caught varies, and is up for constant debate, the only way to stay safe is to refrain from illegal p2p. And no, peerguardian will not keep you safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 all i know is that its perfectly legal to use p2p and to download music in canada due to the taxes u pay on cds/dvds. not sure what the laws are like on movies over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumu Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Unless you are a single mom with children or an university student, I'd say the chances are slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 What about if you're a grandmother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Personally, I wouldn't download a newly released movie from BT. Too dodgy. If you must have it, use the Newsgroups.As for pretty much anything else, I think you're pretty safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph3412 Posted December 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 whats the "Newsgroups"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroc Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 ^^one of the grandaddys of P2P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Well, you can't really call it P2P, since people weren't really uploading to each other =PNewsgroup on Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 USENETI wish I had good Usenet access still..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Better if you call it a grandaddy of filesharing, @home was sooooo sweet back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castle Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 there are no problems downloading anything in Canada via BT until the new law passes... right now an ISP can only hand out your info with a court order, and they can't one as of yet because there's no law that mandates it.given that we're in the middle of an election, that new law isn't going to pass any time soon either, I don't think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Slyck's guide to newsgroups, an excellent intro..also, I hear being dead is a bad idea if you're trying to avoid getting sued by the RIAA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segovia Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Fellow Canadians unite against the oppressive forces that seek to limit our freedoms! Look how the Americans fear the RIAA, MPAA and such? Do you want to live like that?http://www.onlinerights.ca/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 The more security you have the less of a chance you have of getting cought. You should have some type of Ip filter like Peer Guardian or Protowall and a fire wall. When it comes to firewalls you should have both a hardware & software firewall.I use Peer Guardian, a Linksys firewall Router, and two software firewalls. If you can stand to use it, Zone Alarm is good & free. If you're willing to pay for a firewall try McAfee, I use them. Norton Firewall is garbage right now, it's easy to break through. Symantec just bought out and cancelled Sygate Firewall, which was really good. So if they switch to using Sygate as their new Norton personal Firewall then it will be worth paying for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I doubt it. :| Knowing Norton and their incredibly sinister tactics, I'm positive they bought Sygate just to "eliminate" another competitor from the market. Norton's behaviour is worse than a virus, the very same thing it's trying to "protect" users from! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkl Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 @Dark ShroudIsn't it kinda unstable to run two software firewalls, because of the conflicts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Not only that, but software firewalls are basically useless anyway and will have absolutely no effect on anti-p2p agencies "spying" on you. It's not like they "hack" into your computer, they just connect to the tracker and grab a list of seeds. If you're connectable on BT, the firewall won't do shit. Once they have the list (and some sort of proof that they really offer the whole file), they just take the IP logs and times and take them to the ISP to subpoena your details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Buzzard Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Which is why I'd advise stealing your connection from your neighbor's unsecured wireless hotspot. You get to pirate stuff and if they do track your ip and decide to sue they're going to get stuck with a serious lack of evidence, because they're at the wrong house, and look stupid in public yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 1c3d0g, you're probably right. But I'll remain hopeful this one time.gkl, I haven't had any problems so far. At most I have to approve a program for an outbound connection twice.splintax, that's not how it works. If you would bother to read reports on how the RIAA & MPAA go about things you know that they hire "indviguals" to "investigate" the files being shared and yes they actually do try to gain to access your computer to get their "proof." Because those ISP logs do not show what data is being shared.Here are some sources/stories:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10603398http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Dark Shroud: You didn't understand what I said. The **AA trying to "access your computer" to get proof is no different to regular p2p activity - that is, there is no way to differentiate them from a regular p2p user downloading something off you.When those articles talk about the RIAA "looking into her computer" they are talking about using the "browse peer" function available in some FastTrack and Gnutella clients. A firewall won't block that activity if you've set it to allow your p2p traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorz Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 peerguardian will not keep you safe.Is it peerguardian useless then? Why so many here and over all the net use it?I have been thinking on installing it for some time now. I live in a country where P2P is not an issue (luckly) but you never now.If peerguardian canot hide you from reaching the bad peers or trackers (**AA) then what can do the job? Quit downloading is NOT an option Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segovia Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 im running mac osx and live in canada and ive always wondered: if i download a movie what are the chances i could get caught?As a Canadian citizen, you are shielded from lawsuits involving P2P. A while back, a judge ruled that ISPs are not required to reveal the account details (personal information) of IP Addresses involved in P2P file sharing.And this article should make you proud to be a Canadian! :-Phttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/27/nettwerk_sues_riaa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valur Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Thorz: PeerGuardian/ProtoWall/IP-Filters prevent your computer from uploading packages to ips in ranges owned by anti-p2p companies and others that are monitoring users behaviour. If you are never able to upload packages to those companies they are far less likely to get proof of you sharing any stuff. This is not an ultimate protection in any way but it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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