µtorrent becoming bloated?

[wolf202]

I'm not complaining about features RSS is already my baby! I have a gig of ram so its no like it effects me but this is the current beta usaged while downloading 2 torrents at combined 40 kb/s and uploading at a combined 40 kb/s also

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/wolf202/bloat.jpg

Is µtorrent waining from its target? maybe a lite version is in order?

-wolf

[Firon]

RSS has virtually zero impact on the memory use. Most of the increase came from Unicode, and only if you have lots of torrents / torrents with lots of files.

[canuckerfan]

either way, it's still a far cry from other clients

[1c3d0g]

Still, it's important to try and keep new features to a bare minimum, and only implement those that a lot of people will need... :/

[dAbReAkA]

/off

u should be worried about ur firefox.exe more..

EDIT: no problems here - using 1,9 mb seeding 17 torrents

[Ultima]

@Firon: Working Set Size in Process Explorer is the same as Mem Usage in Task Manager =P

@wolf202: The newest versions of µTorrent have barely added to the memory usage (at least in my experience). Unicode support is probably worth the tradup on memory size, and even then, it doesn't add an extraordinary amount. I'm sure ludde still has his eyes set on making the most efficient client, so I wouldn't worry too much about it =]

[BlackLion]

LOL is this serious? µT STILL wont crack the 5MB barrier for me cmon ppl get serious, I fired up Azureus 2306 and seeded 6 torrents....

Task Manager says 153,700K......

What were we talking about again?????

[boo]

4 things decied memory usage:

* number of torrents

* number of connections per torrent

* the download/upload speeds

* If you have ipfilter turned on or off

So 9 MB isn't allot, I have had µTorrent take 30 MB in memory,

but then again I had 14 torrents running, about 750 connections and downloading in 2.5 MB/s and uploading in about 930 KB/s

Another thing, you use PG2, so you can turn off the ipfilter in µTorrent.

[Klaus_1250]

µTorrent is still exceptionally light and from my viewpoint, I wouldn't mind if it would get a bit bigger. As long as everything is usefull and efficient, I'm happy.

[Offtopic]With compiler is used for µTorrent? Intel's? Does it include optimizations for modern processors?[/Offtopic]

[Ultima]

I don't think ipfilter uses any extra memory in µTorrent unless it actually loads a ipfilter.dat file O.o

[boo]

well Ultima, people has said it does + if it's activated,

µTorrent must compair every connections and half open connections IP's to the ipfilter.

And I guess that the ipfilter is loaded, otherwise µTorrent must load and unload it on every check

[Ultima]

Heh what I was trying to say was that if you don't have an ipfilter.dat file but still have the ipfilter option enabled, it *shouldn't* use more memory. That's been my experience so far -- I don't use ipfilter.dat, but when I decided to set the ipfilter.enable to false, the memory usage stayed around the same narrow range (about 2-3mb minimized to tray).

[Firon]

Ultima: maybe I was thinking of private bytes then.

[splintax]

[Offtopic]With compiler is used for µTorrent? Intel's? Does it include optimizations for modern processors?[/Offtopic]

I'm pretty sure it's MSVC++, and I imagine that even if it was optimized for certain processors the fact that it's decompressed on the fly would make that pretty much useless, but correct me if I'm wrong..

edit: back on topic, µTorrent doesn't often sit below 3MB for me, I'm on 6.5MB with no peer blocking, 10 torrents active and about 80KB/s both ways. But it's always been like that for me really, and as long as it takes less memory than Opera, I'm happy (Opera right now is on 25MB with about 12 tabs open and a download running )

[Klaus_1250]

@splintax: optimization for certain processors and the fact that it is compressed is not related. The only relation is that optimizations mean exe-files can gert a big bigger (or smaller if you optimize them for size).

[dolbysnoopy]

I used utorrent since version 1.17 and it don't use much more memory than older version. For me, most of the time it uses <10MB for 1.31 beta. Btw, even the simplest bt client I've ever used needs 5MB and it doesn't have DHT, multitracker, unicode support. I found it uses less memory when close to tray.

[Ultima]

@splintax: Try closing/minimizing it to tray. I've got 8 seeding torrents, and it takes 2.8MB RAM.

[DarkCow]

when i open uTorrent. it uses 10 MB.

when i minimize to system tray only. 2 Mb, maybe 5 when im doing a ton o stuff.

[Firon]

Currently, my µT is using 7M in VM Size. ~3M Mem Usage when I close to tray.

[dAbReAkA]

Opera right now is on 25MB with about 12 tabs open and a download running smile)

firefox 1.5 is using 116,280 K right now with 5 tabs open... omg firefox really sucks (memory leaks since 1.5 was released)

[Ultima]

[offtopic]Yeah, I agree, Firefox has memory leaks. It doesn't appear to be playing nicely with Java either... whenever I open a page with Java, and I close that page with the Java applet, I can't use the rest of the browser, and when I try to close Firefox, it ends up sticking in memory (with me needing to exit forcefully with the Task Manager/Process Explorer). Other than that, though, I like the faster and more accurate page rendering than Opera... (Opera used to run the same as splintax, but lately, whenever I use it, it used almost as much memory as Firefox -- ridiculous). [/offtopic] =P

[Harry Poppins]

Opera right now is on 25MB with about 12 tabs open and a download running smile)

firefox 1.5 is using 116' date='280 K right now with 5 tabs open... omg firefox really sucks (memory leaks since 1.5 was released)[/quote']

Is it known/proven that Firefox 1.5 has memory leaks, or is that just your conclusion (because it uses so much memory)? I'm asking because I've never heared of it having memory leaks. Are you sure it's not the memory cache device? I set mine to about 128MB (and I don't remember what was the default value, just that it was lower), so when the cache gets full the process uses about 150MB, but when the cache is empty it uses something between 25-50MB (depending how many tabs I have open).

[splintax]

You have never heard of Firefox memory leaks?

Admittedly, percentage-wise it's not a big issue, but heaps of people complain about its memory leaks, and it's an issue that devs have been trying to solve for a long time now with no luck.

@splintax: optimization for certain processors and the fact that it is compressed is not related. The only relation is that optimizations mean exe-files can gert a big bigger (or smaller if you optimize them for size).

Yes, I know they are not directly related - but wouldn't the fact that the executable is decompressed on-the-fly negate any benefit from optimization? In any event, I don't personally see it being worth the resources, as µT is already highly efficient. If anything, I think a Linux implementation would be a better way to spend time on the client (although I hear that's a lot of work and won't be happening )

@splintax: Try closing/minimizing it to tray. I've got 8 seeding torrents, and it takes 2.8MB RAM.

Yep, that was a figure as minimized to tray. Right now, 5.5MB as it's minimized to tray with.. about 20KB/s both ways, 7 seeding torrents and 1 downloading torrent. (Bandwidth is limited by Scheduler right now.) Open, the only difference is that µT starts consuming about 1 - 2% CPU time. RAM stays the same, roughly (less than 6MB).

[Ultima]

@Harry Poppins: I've seen a lot of people reporting Firefox 1.5 memory leaks (on Mozillazine), so I think it's proven...

@splintax: Wow, that's a lot of memory... Mine sticks to 2-3MB always when closed to tray =O

[splintax]

yeah, my memory usage is odd :-\

It used to be around 3MB, but now it's much higher (not that it concerns me)

Right now Opera is sitting on 57MB with only one tab open.. but then again this is the latest alpha.