Switeck Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 You're right, "unreliable" is too kind a word:http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=271767#p271767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 @frogmaster: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=37780#p37780Since then, I've seen first hand how unreliable ZA is. This is coming from a once long-time ZA user who wrote a guide on how to properly configure it (so I don't think I'm completely ignorant on the matter ).But yes, I wouldn't allow LSASS to randomly access the Internet without giving it a second thought either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogmaster Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 No of course not, it may well be a false report caused by a peer or background noise, but not necessarily I would think. Regarding zone alarm, we all know how many errors there may be on a computer system. If such errors are not corrected before the installation of security software, it can result in strange things. I use ZA on XP Pro and Vista Ultimate, and have no problems, but has of course seen computers with connection problems after installation, and other strange errors. I will read the error-reporting messages that people have been so nice to give response toThanks to ip view within utorrent you can see the peers that's likely connecting to the computer. if you get a LSASS port 500 notice from the firewall on an ip number witch is not listed within utorrent, it can be a hacker attempts. I am aware that it's may not be the case.On one of my networks do I use a wireless connection directly to the Internet without a NAT router. There is only the ISPs offering security beyond the security programs I have installed. This is of course where I get most messages from the firewall. Some of them come particularly from China and Russia, but also from the Koreans but it can surely come from everywhere. If the IP number is not listed within utorrent it is perhaps an attempt to penetrate, or it may be a peer that's try to connect for the first time.As far as I can see depends the security, and hence a safe permission for LSAAS, of several factors on the network. It is probably wise not forget that you can use a torrent client to see online computers even when they running stealth on the Internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Regarding zone alarm, we all know how many errors there may be on a computer system. If such errors are not corrected before the installation of security software, it can result in strange things. I use ZA on XP Pro and Vista Ultimate, and have no problems, but has of course seen computers with connection problems after installation, and other strange errors.That's besides the point. I've installed ZA on clean installs of Windows and still ran into problems. It wasn't always this way. It only started happening in the more recent versions (from something like v6.x and up). Many people were predicting doomsday after Checkpoint bought ZoneLabs up. At first, I didn't get it; I wasn't seeing why people were worried over the buyout. In retrospect, though, it looks to me like their worries weren't for naught -- ZA has since become rather bloated, slow, unreliable, and unstable.Edit: But oh well, ZA bashing won't really get us anywhere, so I'll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogmaster Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 @SwiteckThank you for your reply. It is interesting what people write and I have no doubt that they are experiencing problems. As an administrator, I am more than well used to it. But I did not experience these problems myself even though I've used ZA before version 6, and now it is version 8 but I'm only use the free version which may be why I do not experience problemsNor am I paranoid using utorrent which I regard as the best torrent client available. I also plan soon to switch to utorrent on my Macintosh where I have used Azureus or Vuze which I really not like because it is a Java memory hog although it has a nice set of features. I will read if Gibson adds something about these problems as described in the links you have been so kind to add@UltimaIt is strange that I did not have problems, it is not? If people have several real-time anti-virus at the same time, it could perhaps be the reason? As I have just mentioned do I use only the free version because I have experienced more problems with the pro version.Right now, in this moment, I have utorrent running, with the latest ZA free version of an XP Pro with SP3 and absolutely no problems. my dynamic IP is 79.138.235.44, located from Denmark. If you scan me will probably think I'm in Sweden but i should be stealth due to ZA exsept the torrent port I use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Stealth.. doesn't really stealth you. It's really easy to tell that there's a machine behind a "stealthed" port.But yeah, ZA has caused BSODs and unexpected behavior in many applications since version 6 and up. It's unfortunate that they make no effort to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogmaster Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 @Fironif you know what computer you have to go after, then yes, if not protect a stealth network for trouble from script kiddies, wannabes and a whole bunch of destroying foolsFiron... are we talking about the same thing? On Win XP I would recommend ZA free, Avast Home and SUPERAntispyware pro, for a good efficient and hassle-protection, with no BSODs However it seems to be a incompatibility problem with Avast and ZA if you are using a proxy course both offering that service but Avast also offering the possibility to disable that specific feature during the install.If some install the ZA pro and another antivirus as well it's clearly a stupid thing to do resulting in BSOD but yes, generally I do not recommend ZA pro either.On Vista I recommend Windows own firewall, Avast Home and SUPERAntispyware pro.On both systems is AVG free an alternative to Avast but it seems that AVG is rather paranoid regarding to keygensAnd as Ultima says "I wouldn't allow LSASS to randomly access the Internet without giving it a second thought either".Trust me when I say that I put thousands of machines in networks. I have so much single hands experience with different types of equipment and installationsBy the way, for people who likes to experiment with installations and other stuff without not really know what the are doing, or just to make an easy way to backup the system, I will recommend to make a Ghost image, install Deepfreeze as well to secure the system drive, or alternatively on a VMware workstation image which you also can install deepfreeze, firewalls and so forth if you like.Thanks again to the staff of µTorrent for making the best torrent application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 At any rate, ZAP is outclassed by the freeware, Comodo Firewall Pro. Avira Personal has better detection than either AVG or avast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogmaster Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 UltimaThanks for the tips, I will test these security programs -------------I am excited about Avira Personal but find Comodo firewall mostly for advanced users because it is easy for people to shut themselves out of the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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