dracu Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 That problem is exactly what I was experiencing with utorrent 1.8 and Vista x32. I had almost 1.9 GB of RAM occupied and when I closed utorrent I was back to ~700 MB.Anyway, I'll see these days if I see the same problem in XP SP3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 You need to enable both those options to bypass the system cache. Did you try them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracu Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Not yet. If I see any problems in XP i'll enable them both. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvv850 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hello,I registered here because of the responses from the administrators of this forum. The people are telling you that when closing utorrent 1.8 the Ram usage drops down to where it should be, a problem that I have also, and a problem that hasn't existed with the 1.7 version.If you keep blaiming microsoft (not that it's perfect but not the case with this problem) you will never find the problem to this release.I have a fresh install of Vista with utorrent 1.8 installed. After 3 hours I couldn't even browse anymore. All the memory (2GB) were eaten. I then closed the processes one by one and found out that utorrent was the problem.I cannot see why you are telling the forum members that this is in fact an adware or an OS problem when clearly is an utorrent one. Also this didn't happen with 1.7.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Does the utorrent.exe process take up all the ram on your system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvv850 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 No, the process itself doesn't. That's why I had difficulties finding the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Then uTorrent is only triggering the problem, it isn't the actual problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvv850 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Then I think this means that Utorrent 1.8 isn't compatible with Vista x86 SP1 (in my case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I've noticed that you've provided none of the information requested of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvv850 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 OS: Vista x86 SP1Antiv: Kasp Internet Security 8Utorren 1.8:-Override set to 100MB-reduce mem usage... unchecked-enable caching of disk writes... checked-write out...checked-write out...checked-enable caching of disk reads...checked-turn off...checked-remove old...checked-increase automatic...unchecked-disable...checked-disable...checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 And the hijackthis log and process explorer process list with the dll list for the utorrent.exe process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvv850 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think when I checked the override to 100MB it stopped eating mem. I don't have hijackthis installed but will install it tomorrow and report back. It's night time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 It's a Windows issue with the system cache, but I think that the system cache bypass might not be working on Vista... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGigi Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Just registered to say "same here". 1.7.x worked great, but after i switched to 1.8.x the memory problem appeared. If I download with more then 5-6 MB/sec my free memory goes from ~2.5 GB to 0. In task manager utorrent sometimes seams to be using 40-50MB, other times it goes beyond 2 GB of RAM. There are no problems with lower download speeds, below 2-3MB/sec.I know its utorrent's fault, because as soon as I close it, my free memory goes back to the way it should be. Tryed the settings you recomended here, but no luck. After a few hours of use, I have to stop everything, close utorrent, wait a few seconds and then reopen it.It's really not fair to blame Microsoft because these problems only emerged after the new version was installed. It doesnt have anything to do with windows. The old 1.7.x still works great.It's not "the hard disk cant handle the speed and thats why it happens". My "download folder" are 3x250GB Maxtor's in RAID Stripped config. And no, I dont have any viruses or spyware on my computer.Hope you'll acknowledge it's a bug and stop blaming the O.S.My O.S.: Vista x64, 4GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Have you bypassed the windows disk cache in 1.8?Does the RAM get used by the utorrent.exe process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Like mentioned before, unless the process itself is eating the RAM, not a bug in utorrent. And if utorrent.exe itself is growing in RAM usage, the NVIDIA firewall can cause that (bug in the NV firewall with large amounts of UDP traffic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGigi Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 As I've said, sometimes the utorrent process gets to 2GB of ram, sometimes its stays at 40-50, but always, a few seconds after I close it, the memory's free again. And it only happens when the download speed goes beyond 5-7MB.I don't use nvidia firewall, I know about that problem, and anyway, dont have an nvidia chipset. And yes, I tryed bypassing the windows disk cache. I did read the forums before posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Post a process explorer process list with the DLL list for the utorrent.exe process then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trierum Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hi !I have the same problem.Vista Ultimate SP1 x64, 4 GB Ram, Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz.uTorrent 1.8 causes massive memory leak. In about half an hour downloading/uploading with 1-2 MB/s I have no free RAM and of course my PC slows down to a crawl. When using Process Explorer I can see no process using so much RAM, including uTorrent which uses about 40-50 MB. Yet when I close it, RAM usage immediately drops from the full 4 GB to the usual for my idling system 800 MB.This situation happens with idle system, nothing non-Windows runs except uTorrent, Comodo Firewall and sometimes Firefox.Anyway, following your advice I managed to find the correct disk cache settings . Here is a screenshot of what worked for me:Now my up/down speed has been reduced with about 10% . Everything equal to the above picture, as soon as I only check "Enable caching of disk writes" or "Enable caching of disk reads" my free RAM starts dropping 2-3 MB/s until no free mem is left.And please stop blaming Windows and find a solution to the problem - other torrent clients do not cause such problems in the same circumstances and although uTorrent itself doesn't use 3.5 GB, it directly causes the memory leak. I am forced to reduce its functionality, which in turn reduces up/down speeds only to make it somewhat operable.For now I keep sticking to uTorrent because I still think apart from this bug it's the best torrent client. I hope a new version will be released soon that corrects this huge annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Ok, here we are, with yet ANOTHER person REFUSING to post ALL the information requested in the thread.Bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 trierum, it's a Windows issue. The fact that your problem disappeared when you bypassed the Windows system cache indicates that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGigi Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I'm not refusing to post ALL the data. I just dont want to install process explorer, make a prinscreen, and post it here. I do not work for utorrent, I'm not a bug-tester (yes, I still say it's utorrent, not windows). I dont have time to do that. As far as I can see, you dont realy care about solving some bugs from your software, you're just dismissing every comment with "it's windows". Well, I'm back to 1.7.x and guess what? Magicaly, windows doesn't have those problems anymore. I can download with more then 8MB without fear of runnig out of memory. 1.7.x uses about 50MB when downloading with my maximum speed.I made the first post because i realy enjoy utorrent's ideea, small & fast. I've been using it for more then 18 months, so I thought I can help you by saying "same here" and giving you all the information I can. That way the next version will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Except it is Windows. And it's not new to 1.8, people have had it on every version and with different torrent clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hi Firon (and others).The issue:I must say im also one of these people. Please pay a bit more attention to the issue if there is any possible way to solve it.Microsoft changed ALOT in SP1 for the cashe.Now when we found out that if we disabled the cashing of files with uTorrent it slows down the application but start to work properly. This should tell you that something has changed, but not your program, yes that is obvious however it does not solve the issue.Offering my help:This happend to me before i reinstalled/upgraded my Vista (x86 > x64), and i thought it could have something to do with another application. I didnt care so much and now when i know thats not the case i ended up in here because i like uTorrent i would like to help you solve this. I dont see any issue in working for you for free when you give your program for free to me *smile*. So, just tell me what to do, where and when and ill be your personal danny the dog for a while.Im building two new computers atm for my community, and one über one to myself. But i can put that on hold just because im willing to do whatever it takes to solve this for you (for me).Best regardsHenrikEdit: Im from Sweden, if you want to talk local with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcharp Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 This problem never existed on my system (Vista Ultimate x64) until v1.8, now if I leave uTorrent running overnight, as has been my normal policy, when I wake up I'm running 99% memory usage. I'm running 8 gigs of memory here, but as has been stated before, the task manager doesn't show uTorrent to be using all of that memory. However, when I close uTorrent, memory usage drops to 10% where it should be. It may be a windows problem but only v1.8 is making it happen.I'm extremely interested the fix to this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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