foxy22 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Sorry if this has been asked numerous times. In utorrent, I click help/show statistics and see my total ratio is currently *0.711. In the past, I've been at 1.0 and always tried to keep it there but it looks like I need to seed a lot more which is what I'm currently doing when I go to bed or if I go out. I don't really seed much when I'm browsing or working on my pc since seeding really slows everything down, so I put it on pause or click stop. My connection is only 2Mbit, so my average download speed is 240kb/sec max and upload speed is 20kb/sec. First question, should I be particularly concerned about the ratio relating to each torrent, or just my total ratio of *0.711? My individual torrents ratios loaded into utorrent range from 1.7 to 0 on some. Does it matter not seeding some torrents as long as I'm still giving back to the community by seeding others?Secondly, is there a ratio threshold below which I will suffer slower speeds on downloading or be seen as a leech? Is *0.711 poor, average or good? If I keep it at 0.7 and above, is that bare minimum acceptable?Currently download total is 55gb, total uploaded is 39gb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theembryo Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Ratios would be a tracker-dependent thing in accordance with each sites' particular policies concerning how much one uploads vs downloads. Whenever you're downloading, you're "leeching", it's just a term. I'm wondering how you get a total ratio as 7.11 when you give download/upload totals of 55gb/39gb, respectively....That's like, 0.71.....Check your settings, seeding should not slow anything down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy22 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Oops, yep, I meant 0.711, lol.I thought the term 'leeching' was reserved for downloaders who give nothing back?Seeding and downloading definitely does slow my pc down a bit. My processor is old though, an athlon xp2000+, but my memory is 1.5Gb of ram.Anyone that might kindly be able to answer my questions then? They haven't been addressed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtechz Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 55gb? too large! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy22 Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 dwtechz, wtf are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Global ratios don't matter as much as per-torrent ratios, really. That being said, seeding is a very subjective thing that depends very much on the particular torrent you're seeding. If you've shared back as much as you can, and no peers are left to request data from you, then there isn't much you can do about the ratio being below the desired >= ~1.0. Keeping the torrent around in your list for a while might be a good idea though, in case someone finds the torrent a few weeks later and can't find the complete data in the swarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy22 Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Thanks for the reply, Ultima. Here is a screenshot of my torrent seeding list.I think my per-torrent ratios are good to excellent on them aren't they?http://img182.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=37137_ScreenShot460_122_514lo.jpgI'm seeding with the intention of getting back up to a global of 1.0, (currently at 0.731) but at my speed of 20kb/sec, it's going to take a month. I have my alternative upload rate when not downloading set to 40 but it never goes above 20. I don't think there's much I can do to speed things up is there?Anyway, is there a total ratio threshold below which I would suffer download speed loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Each upload slot needs 3-5 KiloBYTES/second or download speed suffers (often badly) on poorly-seeded torrents.How fast is your connection both down and up according to speed tests?2nd link in my signature to configure uTorrent based on sustainable upload speed max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Your ratios are (for the most part) fair to excellent, yes. Speeding things up, no, there isn't really any way (assuming your port is forwarded already, and you've correctly followed the Speed Guide).There isn't a total ratio threshold because each torrent swarm can be considered a separate P2P network of sorts (all using the same P2P protocol -- BitTorrent). One swarm doesn't know of your activities in another swarm. What's done in one swarm (generally) stays in that one swarm.BitTorrent is loosely based around a tit-for-tat 'merit' system where, the more you upload, the more likely you'll be uploaded to by others, and that's why it's important to upload as quickly as you can, and as best/much as you can until at least ~1.0. After that, it's just a case of how generous you're feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 The more you upload to an individual peer, the more it's likely to upload back to you. Peers you're not uploading to don't care if you're uploading fast to others...as they can't see that.You want to be uploading a little faster than most other peers to each fast peer...which are probably few in number. So your upload slots needs to be set high enough to cover most of the fast peers and low enough that your average upload speed per upload slot is at least 3 KiloBYTES/second. (Sadly, that rotten-slow speed is faster than MOST everyone else!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy22 Posted September 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Thanks Switeck and Ultima, that gives me a better understanding.I'm with virgin media, and the speed of my connection ( I have a 2Mbit conn ) tested just now is this:05/09/08 15:45:08 Speed Down 1924.19 Kbps ( 1.9 Mbps ) Speed Up 182.22 Kbps ( 0.2 Mbps ) Port 8095 Server speedtest2.adslguide.org.uk Switeck, I looked through the 2nd link in your signature ( which is a bit too involved for me sorry )but I wonder, would you be so kind as to have a quick look at these 5 screenshots of my setup and tell me if I need to change anything? Currently, I'm happy with my download speeds which tend to hit 200kb/sec maximum and rarely go below 50kb/sec. My upload speeds tend to be fairly consistent at 19 to 20kb/sec.http://img227.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25779_ScreenShot453_122_338lo.jpghttp://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27034_ScreenShot454_122_1123lo.jpghttp://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25791_ScreenShot455_122_595lo.jpghttp://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25838_ScreenShot456_122_1112lo.jpghttp://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25840_ScreenShot457_122_502lo.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 192 kilobits/second upload settings on my chart in 2nd link of my signature....Because sadly, you don't have a 2 megabits/second upload connection.No point in putting alternate upload speed at 40, since it seems highly unlikely your line will ever upload faster than 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy22 Posted September 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Thanks for the help Switeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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