theed Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Hi, I'm getting irritated over the fact that as long µtorrent is running, the connection is heavily limited from other applications than µtorrent. For example: I'm downloading a movie from an FTP at 660kbps while µtorrent is not running.As soon as I start a download with µtorrent, the speed on the FTP-connection decreases to about 20kbps, even though the µtorrent-download only has a maximum transfer rate at about 100kbps. Even when downloading small things at 20kbps in µtorrent, other applications get limited to 10-20kbps. I can't even run firefox properly with µtorrent downloading!I hope somebody has a solution to this problemMy connection is 8Mbps/1Mbpsglobal max up: 100global max down: 800global max connections: 200max connections/torrent: 50uploadslots/torrents: 4scraping and DHT enabledadvanced options not modifiedusing µtorrent 1.3 (364) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I'm also using agnitum outpost firewall pro version 3.0.543.5722 (431), WinXP MCE SP2, but the problem persists when turning it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Did you patch tcpip.sys, do you have a router, what router do you have, does turning off DHT help, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 have not patched tcpip.sys, and no router..turning off DHT seems to decrease the speed further..i downloaded the latest beta and ran the speed guide, so now the speed in µtorrent is about 50kbps instead of 100kbps with rel 364, but speed in other applications is still 10-20kbps..i've tried different settings with on speed limits and max connections, but no result there either.also, when trying to access the internet with firefox while µtorrent is running, the CPU load hits 99% for a second.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaSurfer Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I'm having a similiar problem... it seems to be becoming a bandwidth hog like some other clients. I did the tcpip patch, I have DHT off due to a private tracker and only have 3 torrent uploading... when I go to my browser it's slower than a 486 on a bad day. The minute I exit uTorrent, I'm back up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Did you cap your upload at all? If you did, perhaps you didn't cap it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 cap the upload? i'm not very into the settings, what would you say I need to change in the settings to cap it "enough"?what's the tcpip-patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 In Network Options, you have to cap your upload speed to 80% of your actual upload (in KiB/s).http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=downloads <- tcpip.sys patch, use it and patch to 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Also, try reducing upload bandwidth further...though no lower than 3 KB/sec per upload slot (and at 4 upload slots typical per torrent that means 12 KB/sec min) or torrents will suffer.If you see considerable download speed increases in other programs as µTorrent's upload speed is reduced, chances are your connection is almost acting like it is half-duplex...that is if upload speed is under 80% of upload max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 i can't find any setting that sets the min-upload-speed.. where is it?i often experience a slight reduction in download speed as upload speed increases, but i'm not sure if the speeds are related in any way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The "minimum" upload speed I mentioned of 3 KB/sec per upload slot is just a guideline. By it, I mean it is bad to set your upload speed in µTorrent to less than 3 KB/sec per upload slot...it just spams lots of tiny bits of the torrent to lots of people and takes a very long time to upload complete chunks (which can be shared) to anyone. Also, if you're uploading too slowly to someone they won't upload to you in return.A slight reduction in download speeds tends to occur as you near max upload speed for your connection on well-seeded torrents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 µTorrent automatically lowers your slots based on the upload cap if you have it set too high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I have the same problem aswell. I think the µTorrent programmers need to have a look at this problem!!!It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the settings of µTorrent at all just the fact that it is running is enough to stop my browser from working properly.I've tried limiting download speed in µTorrent, limiting connections etc, I've also tried using Net Limiter to restrict its internet access but nothing works except closing the program. If the programmers can't find a fix for this, I'm going to have to change to a different torrent client. I've tried pretty much every client on the market and I like this best because it uses the least amount of resources. Oh well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Bunta: did you even read the thread and try to turn DHT off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Yes I did and that did not affect it and no I'm not a retard.Anyway, I have now found a solution that works.I've downloaded a program called cFosSpeed which is an internet Traffic Shaping program, not only does it make internet surfing and downloading etc faster, while giving you lower pings (supposedly) but it's fixed the previous problem with µTorrent. I have µTorrent running and it is downloading faster than it was before and my internet browsing is working fine. Horray!!If you're interested its available here:http://www.cfos.de/speed/cfosspeed_e.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 A lot of us use cFosSpeed too. I'm not sure why nothing helped in your particular case apart from that, maybe you had your upload cap set too high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Restricting upload speed either within µTorrent or by using Net Limiter had no affect either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolfo2 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I've installed first version 1.3.2.BETA and after few days I istalled yesterday version 1.4 and both version gave increased speed from the previous versions.I have nothing patched on my PC,I could dl with 1MB/s and still watch internet TV and browse on internet without any problems.The only function I didn't tested yet is seeding,I hope it's great like everything else.There's no better client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I'm experiencing a higher speed since 1.4 update, but still, other programs suffer from the fact that µtorrent is running.. i'll give cfosspeed a try.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 nope, it still steals all bandwidth even with cfosspeed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Then your ISP may be enforcing a speed reduction if it sees BitTorrent traffic on your line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theed Posted January 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 don't think so.. bitcomet, for example, does not cause this problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 BitComet uses a proprietary (secret) header encryption method that can bypass some ISPs BitTorrent throttling.Since that only works with other BitComet clients, it is semi-limited in practice...however BitComet clients are prevalent enough to still see considerably better speed on BT-crippled ISPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunta Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yea but the problem is not that he's receiving a speed throttling with uTorrent just that when its running it steals bandwidth away from other programs.If his ISP was throttling it he wouldn't get good download speeds which he is.Sorry cFosSpeed didn't work for you, it worked a treat for me....I've now got uTorrent running aswell as DC++ which always stole heaps of bandwidth and I can still surf the net just fine, while they both share download speed. Its been great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Did you make sure to calibrate cFosSpeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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