arvid Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 uTP currently has higher overhead than TCP. This is mostly caused by the fact that we use 300 byte packets, as opposed to 1460 bytes packets used by TCP. The reason for doing this is to have finer control over the send rate and the delay each packet incur.There will be more knobs in the advanced settings to control uTP behavior in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-sub Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I do hope so. Whilst it's nice to have control over the send rate, timing, etc - to the average user, who just wants to load a torrent and go, it's not going to mean much. They'll see 10kb/s upload, and low downloads in uTorrent, and see higher uploads, and higher downloads because of it in another client.If you can increase the perceived benefit, then more people will want to use your 'product'. Which at the moment, is rather difficult to do (unless you read all the technical info on uTP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Build 14470 released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 - Fix: don't process SYN packets on existing uTP connections- Fix: uTP congestion control fixCan you elaborate a bit more ? what should we see as the result/effect those changes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-sub Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Overhead seems to be way down on the latest build, awesome! I've got maybe a 10% overhead now - back to where I was before uTP - Fix: don't process SYN packets on existing uTP connections- Fix: uTP congestion control fixCan you elaborate a bit more ? what should we see as the result/effect those changes ?In regards to SYN with TCP, it usually refers to a synchronize sequence number. They're mostly ever only used to initiate a handshake with ACK/SYN (which I believe if memory serves me right, is short for acknowledge, sign - in reference to receiving an order and signing for it).Most DDoS attacks are done by flooding a connection with SYN packets, as they cause a lot of overhead, causing the machine to stop, process for longer than normal, and reply.They would be hugely useless on existing connections, especially UDP ones.Read up on TCP and it's SYN flag on Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 thanks. J, can you try setting the download limit to, say , 100K see if you get the speed to only half of that ? ... I've tried it with openoffice 'test'-torrent...edit: what is uTorrent doing every 30 seconds exactly that spikes the upload ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackR Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Only a little question:if I stop the torrent: event send = stopbut if I pause the torrent, event what send? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSUdvm2b Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Build 14470 released.Thanks. Trying it out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 - Fix: uTP congestion control fixthat might fix the CPU usage with the firewall?. I have that issue on 1.8.2 (when uTP is enabled and any firewall eat my CPU alive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neronut Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hey All,Just started using the latest build (14470) and currently my download is maxed. Using uTP only to improve experience with a throttling ISP. It is maxed at 600kB/sec and everything is fine except gmail and random website have issues but it comes and goes. Other computers on my network have no issues doing anything, when they do the speed drops for a brief moment. Just giving an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanitysnake Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 This build 14470 is equal others builds 1.9 beta...Next image show the torrent uploading dedicated to high speed networks on tracker private on my country... Note, upload speed up and down in same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molitar Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 This alpha has serious memory leaks.. maxed out my dual core to the point it almost froze up my system. Dual Core 4600+ AMD processor in Win XP Pro Sp3. For now I wnet back to 13910 it has been running alot more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 how did you see that ? on my XP-SP2 I didn't notice it (C2D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougalDragon Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Mine been running for for over a day so far no memory used up. I dont think Utorrent caused that lol as I dont use AMD but I have Core 2 Duo Quad and yet see it do any different other builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bas1994 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 I don't have any memory leaks.Windows Vista SP1, Intel Celeron (1.7GHZ Laptop)9 movie torrents (+- 750MB each) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanitysnake Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Memory is fine here... In Win XP SP3...at Pentium 4 3.0Ghz HT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odyssey000 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 I was told to post this here too:http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=53506Am I the only one with this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 > My problem is that this new 1.9 uTorrent doesn't start downloads or seeds only if they are forced.you better explain exactly what you mean. You press "start" button on a new torrent and the download just does not start ? Nothing like that here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Stan: If your firewall is eating all your CPU, then your firewall has a bug.Earlier builds had a CPU usage problem where utorrent.exe itself ate all the CPU, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odyssey000 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 rafi:Yes. Only works if it's forced started. Normal start is not enough. And only with uT 1.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 That means you have too many active torrents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr1XseL Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Why can't Utorrent forcibly prefer uTP connections instead of normal ones?Development on this new feature is a bit slow and all options on download and upload should be tested and tried out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 How to enable and disable it:Preferences > Advanced, set bt.transp_disposition to:255 - both TCP and uTP (default)10 - uTP only5 - TCP onlyWhen set to 255, uTP is preferred anyway. If uTP weren't preferred by default, you wouldn't see uTP connections from 1.8.x peers.Few releases doesn't equate to slow development, and faster releases doesn't equate to more testing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odyssey000 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Firon:And why is it a problem only with 1.9 uTs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 cause of a bug in counting uTP connections ? ... maybe ? ... BTW - why don't you just tell us, how may torrents are you running concurrently ? and what's you max # of connections setup ? let me guess, you have 400 active torrents , and 350 max global connections ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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