billatq Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 The toolbar icons are not full black:An excerpt from the Apple Human Interface Guidelines:Designing Icons for Rectangular-Style Toolbar ControlsIcons that look good in rectangular-style toolbar controls are streamlined, black images that convey meaning through outline and contour, not internal detail. Because your icons should echo the appearance of the existing Mac OS X images inside rectangular-style toolbar controls, use the system-provided template images as a guide. As you design an icon for a rectangular-style toolbar control, keep the following points in mind:* Make the outline sharp and clear* Use a straight-on perspective* Use full black and a few shades of gray to suggest dimensionality* Use anti-aliasing* Make sure the image is visually centered in the control (note that visually centered might not be the same as mathematically centered)* Icons for regular-size rectangular-style toolbar controls should measure no more than 19 x 19 pixels.(http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGIcons/chapter_15_section_9.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000967-SW3)An example of a rectangular toolbar (address book) with full black: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjk Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Are you referring to "start", "stop", "remove" buttons on this screenshot?If yes, that's by design - those are disabled buttons so there must be some visual feedback for that and it's done by graying out the icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoOneButMe Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I think he's referring to the Open and Open URL icons. Which aren't completely black and instead have a slight gradient. This complies with the section of the HIG he posted, but when placed next to the Start/Stop/Remove buttons while they are grey, it looks lighter then it really is (which would make it grey to grey, not black to grey) and would violate HIG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billatq Posted November 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I was referring to the "Open" and "Open URL" icons. They're not using a full black, or at least don't appear to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoOneButMe Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 They're a gradient. Which is allowed by HIG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billatq Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I suppose. But they still look half disabled. Would it be possible to make the starting color of the gradient to be a bit stronger black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godDLL Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 HIG is conveying an idea, not a law. Violating the HIG is not going to get you banned from the Mac platform. It is more of a guide. Lines. Guidelines. Having said that, I hold an opinion of both icons being illegible, and by that notion -- wrong. What the HIG is trying to do is make devs create readable interfaces. The globe icon struck me as such only when I have read someone else refer to it as that. Up until that moment it was a weird shapeless blob in my eyes. I now see the error of my ways. The folder icon was meaningless as well. Maybe an expanded folder would be more to the point. That kinda says "open". But the underlying label cleared that up. I should read deeper into the depths of the interface design next time, I suppose. No offence meant, uTorrent team. You're doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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