kerson Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I was reading this on a public tracker:-A bit of news: [link removed to discourage others from being tempted into downloading it] the site that provided the first uTorrent spoof patches for bitcomet has went a little further.. and now gone and modified uTorrent 1.4 to use DHT and ignore the private flag, just like bitcomet.-I hope µTorrent not get blamed/banned on private trackers because of these stupid f**kers that have to cheat to get anything...RegardsEDIT by silverfire: Link removed. People who should know can get the link from me using other means if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Can someone explain WHY do this ? Why code a client that ignores a private flag ? Why patch uTorrent to make it ignore it ? What for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerson Posted January 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I guess because these stupid people just want to cheat, they are not mature enough to be part of a private tracker community.I hope Ludde can come up with some clever coding to detect if µTorrent has been changed/hacked on startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljubo666 Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Can someone explain WHY do this ? Why code a client that ignores a private flag ? Why patch uTorrent to make it ignore it ? What for ?Because slime of this world wants to spread it's slime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Can someone explain how do you "cheat" by making a client ignore the private flag ? The only thing it would do is uploading to the ppl outside the private swarm, i still dont get why would that be good for a potential cheater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 looking at the size of it, I dont trust it at all, I wouldnt fire that up...........its more than twice the size of the real µ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I bet it just because they had to unpack the exe to patch it. But the WHY question remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I'm going to try to shut down that motherfucker. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeungl Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I think , have a mechanism to check will be important, since I don't want uT's reputation got ruin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 there HAS to be a way to tell if the client is real or fake..........right???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 wrong the client could try to detect the fact it is patched, but you could patch the detection as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 There's always going to be people who do this... I'm not too surprised. As for whether it'll ruin µTorrent's reputation... I doubt it. If it can, then Azureus' reputation can just as easily be called into question, since it's open source and people can "hack" it to make it do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
criscr0ss Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 u can always make it harder to unpack the exe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Determined crackers/cheaters will find their way around anyhow =T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anoxan Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 in my opinion, it'a a personal attack on ludde. on a more open opinion, they did it because the comet's banned and they want to "share" outside of the private tracker..I'm still not understanding why someone would want to share their membership with complete strangers...it's actually pretty dumb. maybe I'm missing something..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 While that may be true, it might also be the fact that µTorrent is the next closest client to BitComet in terms of features/resource usage and whatnot.Maybe these people share outside out of spite for private trackers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Hmm, this seems strange alright, I'll be *very* interested to hear what Ludde has to say in this matter. But seriously, has anyone tried this "hacked µtorrent" client yet? perhaps it's just another trojan scam? If it's true, it's certainly a bad day for µtorrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixshot Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Maybe all BT clients should send some sort of "signature" to the tracker that can't be deciphered easily. Maybe some sort of GPG-style signature or a MD5 signature of some sort... the trackers would then keep a database of known clients associated with the signature. If I recall correctly, the client ID is sent in plain text via http. Maybe something separate other than the tracker announce to ID the client used... maybe UDP?I'm just throwing up ideas since I'm concerned about the hacked version... it's rather pitiful that people would hack away at softwares just so that it'll perform differently from the official ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcramer Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Sixshot, what's to stop them hacking this and just sending the GPG or MD5 signature of the unhacked exe.Unless you add lots of obsfucation code to the exe, (and probably even then) it WILL get hacked if someone wants to. Or they can just hack the current version. There is not much that can be done about it, even if BT was a secure encrypted protocol, which it isn't. Azureus is open source, anyone can download it, modify it and tell it to upload a uTorrent signature.There are always going to be people doing this kind of thing, in every sphere of life. Thieves, benefit frauds, crooks etc, etc.S'life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I've sent the network owner a cease-and-desist letter about this matter. I'm currently waiting for their response. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I'm not sure if you really have any authority when sending such a letter, so I doubt it'll make a difference anyhow. If they'd go through the great lengths to do this, then they're probably not going to stop just because some people random people tell them to =T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animorc Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Still, it's the only thing to do.This might give some ideas as to how commercial software developers/publishers feel about cracking activities. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 They have legal authority to do so though, so it makes some more sense with them. Even still, it doesn't deter crackers from releasing their stuff. But whatever, we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 We'll see what comes out of it. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolfo2 Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I was seeding for 2 days now and saw [ FAKE ]uTorrent clients.So uTorrent recognize the fake ones and I think ( not sure of ) that they were unable to download anything and after a while they wanished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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