AJZ Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 @moogly:The claim was made by many including firon that auto update was available even thought it isnt at this moment. The 1.8.2s you see in the swarms must have updated manually. The manual upgrade option is a workaround an not a solution to the lack of an auto-update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Help - check for updates gives you what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJZ Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 A window pops up that says: "there is no new update available at this time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Checking for updates just worked perfectly here.There may be something else wrong between your computer and the update server, but the 1.8.2 is definitely up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jok111 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Ignore, I did a stupid error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurahashi Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogly Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 @kurahashi: and if you uncheck the box about beta updates and ask an auto-update in Help menu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Could just my imagination, but it seemed like piece selection has become slightly less random..Less spread-outIt wasn't due to the pieces distribution in the swarm, it was fine.So far it only happened on 2 downloads and somehow I doubt something like the random number generator would be changed unannounced and for seemingly no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Can you describe exactly what kind of behavior are you seeing that's drawing the suspicion? And piece selection isn't completely random -- piece rarity is another factor (not sure if you count that within "fine" piece distribution though ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Well the pieces distribution in the swarm was "normal" - there were no sequential downloaders or people who were skipping files (single file torrent so..). The pieces availability thing looked quite even (no big parts that were obviously darker or lighter than others)The behaviour: pieces were grouped together rather than evenly spread out. I mean, the average length of a downloaded (or 'not-downloaded', which followed the same strange pattern) 'part' (say, 5 to 20 pieces) was bigger than what would be statistically expected for the # of completed pieces.A bit like this (attempt at ASCII drawing):|_||||____|||___|_|||||_|||___|||||_____||| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurahashi Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 @moogly - have tried it already, no resultI'd like to add that I was using (and testing) all the 1.8 betas and auto-updating was working fineI can suspect the problem is connected with the fact that I still use 12616 build, while Ultima have 12639 one.But if that is the case, why my utorrent never updated to 12639?Enough is enough, I'm downloading 1.8.2 manually. I'm hoping only there won't be any problems with auto-uptade later again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Well, I suppose that I can confirm. Both build 12549 (RC1) and 12639 (stable 2) autoupdate correctly. Build 12616 (stable 1), which is sandwiched in between, doesn't auto-update correctly. Not sure if it's a problem with the update script or the build though.Edit: Yep, the problem was that the update script explicitly blocked 12616 from receiving an auto-update to 12639 (it wasn't worth updating to for users who were already on 12616). That in itself isn't an issue, but the check wasn't removed after 1.8.2 was released, so the update server simply told 12616 that there was no update. At any rate, Firon's fixed the update script, so it should work for everyone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Yes, the update script was fixed earlier so those still on build 12616 can auto-update. Thanks everyone who pointed it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandlord Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 this release 1.8.2 fuck up my downloads, before 1.8.1 version my downloads is 170 - 230 kbs, i know how to setup, but now find hard to know the problem and my download for this new version is only 3 kbs and upload is 35kbs, using the same torrent and other torrents. what the fuck! i'm very much annoyed i can't restore my settings before it's already fuck up!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjab Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 To quote Grandlord above:"this release 1.8.2 fuck up my downloads, before 1.8.1 version my downloads is 170 - 230 kbs, i know how to setup, but now find hard to know the problem and my download for this new version is only 3 kbs and upload is 35kbs, using the same torrent and other torrents. what the fuck! i'm very much annoyed i can't restore my settings before it's already fuck up!..."I also have had a similar experience.With 1.8 I almost continually had a red NAT signal and low speeds.1.8.1 appeared to solve the problem, as I almost always had a green NAT signal and much higher speeds.I auto-updated to 1.8.2 and speeds immediately dropped tremendously and the red NAT signal was back.I uninstalled 1.8.2 and went back to 1.8.1 b12639 and still have the same problems. Whatever got fixed by 1.8.1 was broken by 1.8.2 and seems to be sticky.There still seems to be an issue.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=53813Fix your firewall. And read the auto-update message carefully, as it clearly tells you to recreate your firewall rules when you update. It's not µTorrent's fault that your firewall decides that it wants to block an executable just because it was updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomp Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 ok Some feedback.I dont know what this utp stuff is but I have a rough idea following my experience.currently on 1.8.2 I have a torrent going, max upload speed is set to 45kB/sec.Previously on uttorent I would have a solid 45kB/sec upload and my download would not be maxed out as I had explained in previous threads that upload speed affects my download performance. (110kB/sec is my max line upload speed).On this version I am downloading full speed flatlined on a poorly seeded torrent and my uploading is hovering between 25kB/sec and 45kB/sec, so my guess is UTp somewhat moderates upload packets to ensure download performance and I am guessing when I have 100% the upload will go to a solid 45kB/sec (at this rate will know in 2 hours time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Except that uTP isn't actively enabled in 1.8.x, only passively enabled. 1.8.2's uTP-related change was only that a configuration option was slightly expanded -- nothing more. Mere coincidence, or something else is interfering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomp Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 all I can tell you is uploading is slower in 1.8.2 than 1.8.1, I prefer this as my internet connection runs better but the change in behaviour is defenitly there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niksus Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Have you read post #116? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 niksus, I dont' think upload speed is a firewall related issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 My upload speed often takes a nosedive when a uTP connection is established.It would be running along smoothly at 127 KB/sec, then drop to maybe 90 KB/sec when an incoming uTP connection was made.There is no way to disable uTP nor disable this behavior that I can tell...Even firewalling uTorrent on UDP did not stop this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chupakabra Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Today my uTorrent hung with one thread using 100% CPU. I connected debugger and saved a minidump: http://www.mediafire.com/file/jzoyyku51vo/utorrent.mdmpI also have a large dump (.dump /ma). Let me know if it is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niksus Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 rafi, so you believe it affects only download speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 no, it effects the whole ability to connect outside (if uT is completely blocked) or be connected from the outside . Eventually it will not upload/download since no connections will be made. you should see a failed network status sign on the status bar. If the FW blocks only incoming connections you can probably expect less peers connecting to you, thus slower speed, but I don't think necessarily a dramatic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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