RE: Clear Download List on Exit

[teknoprep]

I posted:

"Can you add a feature to the next version of uTorrent which clears the finished downloads when the program exits?

Thanks!"

and Firon replied:

"Delete resume.dat from %AppData% yourself. It's not that hard."

and closed the topic.

Well, it's not about being hard, it's about the annoyance. I could just select all the entries and delete them (which would be easier than your method), but thats annoying. Firefox has the option of removing completed downloads on exit so your download history doesn't build up, and I believe this would be an easy option to add to uTorrent.

I believe this is a well-needed feature to make uTorrent complete.

[Firon]

Batch file then?

del "%appdata%\utorrent\resume.dat"

del "%appdata%\utorrent\resume.dat.old"

Really, I highly doubt this option will ever get added, because it discourages seeding.

[teknoprep]

and how do i implement that when I exit uTorrent (I never restart my computer, but rather I shut down uTorrent when not in use to save memory)?

Truthfully, I don't understand the frustration. It seems like a simple feature (maybe 5 minutes creation) that a lot of people would like - I mean, who doesn't want their download list to be automatically deleted on exit (it just keeps growing and growing).

If Firefox implements it, why not uTorrent?

It just seems it should be an option - I don't want to keep fighting with a mod.

[dAbReAkA]

there are a million simple useless features..

look at azureus.. it's better there cuz there are plugins and it doesn't bloat the application but azureus is bloated enough as it's a java-based application

IMO this feature ain't be a part of µTorrent

[teknoprep]

but you don't think its a good idea?

firefox isn't bloated and it's included in that program.

i mean, do you actually leave your entire list of past downloads there? who would do this? this WOULD make the program bloated.

its a simple option that would take barely any space and save a lot of people some hassle.

p.s. learn some english.

[Firon]

It doesn't save any space, the resume.dat file is extremely small.

And the reason you leave it there is because you must seed those files before removing it, or you're a leech. And many times, you can keep seeding the file later, perhaps because it's your torrent, or someone asked for a reseed, or you need a ratio boost.

This is NOT the same as an HTTP downloader, where when you download, you're done. With BT, you need to keep it and seed to a decent ratio. That is why the option will never get implemented. Keeping the list of torrents doesn't increase the size of the resume file or use significantly more memory.

Do you even seed your stuff? or do you hit and run?

ps: firefox is bloated, even more than IE (but that doesn't mean I don't like it)

[teknoprep]

No - your misunderstanding me.

I mean, remove it automatically IF it is in a finished state - not if it is still seeding (hasn't reached percentage ratio) or is still downloading. Also, only remove it on exit - and leave it as an option.

I don't leech - I simply don't like to have a cluttered download history, and it is a hassle to clear it everytime.

[Miffo]

Doesnt del resume.dat affect current downloads?

ps. Its not bloated, just a bit slow..

[Firon]

Well, in that particular case, it's not so bad of a request, I guess.

[Ghost21]

But finished downloads not meeting seeding ratios are still counted as finished.

[Ares]

Personally I leave all my finished downloads in the list, and enable scraping stopped torrents. If I notice a particular torrent has some peers and only one or two seeders, I manually start seeding, regardless of whether or not I've reached the ratio I want (350% right now).

It's not bloated, and the corresponding .dat files are tiny. Only time I delete them out of the list is when I run out of space and have to move the torrent into external storage.

-Ares

[teknoprep]

Thanks for understanding, Firon.

Ghost21: well, you could easily change it not to set as finished.

Ares: i have a laptop without a lot of space, so once ive reached a 100% download/upload ratio, i delete the file...otherwise i would do the same.

[Ares]

@teknoprep: I'm in the same situation actually. That's why I have a 120GB and 250GB external drive

But yeah, I understand your needs somewhat. I never seed off of my external drives because I prefer not to keep them on all the time - basically to prolong their life. I don't care about my laptop drive that much. But the two externals have some irreplaceable data. So yeah, if you have a small laptop drive, I could see where your suggestion might come in handy. Personally I sort my downloads by the # column, and whenever my torrents are seeded to 350% and get the green check mark, I just select the top one, hold down shift, select the bottom on, and then remove them all in one swift click. Personally that works fine for me. As I said, when I have room, I usually leave them there and scrape the stopped torrents to see if there are any dying swarms that I could be of assistance to lol

If you have some spare IDE drives just laying around, I could point you to where you could find a $16 IDE to USB converter. Might help alleviate those disk space problems

(And yeah, I'm in desperate need of a good backup solution, hence why I leave my external drives powered off. But I can't find one short of buying a new drive. And it's just too tempting to fill those new drives with even more torrented goods lol).

Oh and one big reason why I wouldn't want them automatically removed is because it's much easier to find out which ones can be moved off to external storage if they have a big green check mark beside of them. If they would start auto-clearing, I'd have to go compare my huge download directory with my queued files. Could be quite annoying.

-Ares

[teknoprep]

Ares:

I actually had a 200gb hard drive from Staples Black Friday ($30) lyeing around, so I just bought this:

http://store.yahoo.com/insidecomputer/3usb20hadren.html

that should help.

But about the clear on exit - an option would be nice (it probably shouldn't be enabled by default).

[splintax]

Ares: I am in the same situation as you, but I imagine turning the drives on and off is probably doing more damage than leaving them on..

But finished downloads not meeting seeding ratios are still counted as finished.

No, they're marked as Seeding.

teknoprep: I understand where you're coming from, and maybe this isn't such a bad idea - but the way you suggested it makes people think that you're a leech and don't know how BT works.

[Ares]

@splintax: Yeah, I know powering them on/off can be just as bad leaving them on. But I typically only use them once or twice a week. It would be different if I booted them up daily, or multiple times a day. But usually they sit there for weeks before I use them. I just store all my music/movies/tv shows/personal digicam pics/program installations on them. Stuff that I normally don't access on a daily basis.

Honestly I wouldn't have a use for the feature he's asking for, even though I am in the same situation. It's easier for me to know what to move to external storage if it *isn't* removed from my queue list. If it is, then it's typically lost among a sea of downloads. Unfortunately, I'm a pack rat. A pack rat that happens to have a means of collecting about everything imaginable (bittorrent). It's a bad combination... 0.o

-Ares

[teknoprep]

splintax:

i guess one could assume that i leeched. but i assure you i don't, when a file is considered by uTorrent to be "finished" (not "seeding"), i would like it automatically removed when I close the application.

hopefully now that all confusions are aside it will be implemented in the next version.

[teknoprep]

What have the mods decided on this feature request?

Will it be included in 1.5?

Thanks!

[1c3d0g]

Don't bump your thread. We all have features that we want implemented. Ludde will include it if he thinks it's worth his time. :/

[teknoprep]

1c3d0g:

i wasn't "bumping" my thread - i was interested in knowing whether or not it would be implemented

if the admins had any more questions, i would like to answer them...hopefully people think this is a good option to be added.

[1c3d0g]

What you've done is called bumping, whether you agree with me or not. :| And like I said, Ludde decides what features he wants, and he rarely comments on feature requests anyway. Hint: pressing for your feature will certainly not make the developer interested, more likely it'll annoy him. So just be patient and we'll see what comes out of it.

[Animorc]

Just as an input: This could make it troublesome when you're using the RSS Downloader with some auto-filters enabled, since it will start the same torrent multiple times when the finished ones are removed.

[Firon]

Animorc: no it won't, it knows what torrents it loaded beforehand 'cause it keeps the info in the history

[Animorc]

Is that a change in the newest beta? Cause whenever I removed a job from the list while it was still active in some RSS feed, it would start downloading again (b405).

[Firon]

Hm, really? Maybe I'm wrong then...