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@lostinspace: Disk cache? I've never seen µTorrent use more than 20MB here (right now, it's using only 9MB for me).

On Vista SP1 (and SP2 since today :D ), I'm frequently above 20 MB up to 30 MB.

EDIT: with stable 1.8.2 of course.

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Thank you all (5618, jewelisheaven, Ultima) for telling me that, i knew that in the old days utorrent used a really small footprint. I have disk cache enabled but anyway seems weird to me that it jumps in that hughe blocks and with no torrent added or subtracted that jumped 80M up.

@jewelisheaven

diskio.sparse_files is default OFF

Thank you for that. i really dont mess with that optimisations ... it's now "true" on 1.8.0 so this should be set "false" for vista? Could you please say what kind of mess was that option doing on vista. and is this only if vista is the machine where the files are stored. cause i usually download to network machine. Or it could happen just if host os where utorrent is running is vista. thanks

@Ultima

I know that pre-allocation of files doesnt have anything with my memory usage. But it's more convenient for me if the files are dynamically allocated.

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I wouldn't call sparse files BROKEN, however when files have > 65534 chunks of sparse data, the OS was breaking. This is of course very unlikely in small files, but when you get into the multi-gigabyte files it becomes more of an issue.

So, to note, files are only made sparse on creation. So, turn it ON make new files.

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Vista's handling of sparse files is so poor that (IINM) it could effectively cause the entire OS to be unable to use the filesystem in certain situations. It could happen with anything, but because of the way BitTorrent works with regards to disk writes, it easily occurred with µTorrent. I don't know if it causes problems with the filesystem itself, but I suspect not (I think it may have been a Vista-specific limitation).

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@jewelisheaven: thanks. This was a silly regression, I've made sure to comment it properly in the code now so that we won't make this mistake again. Will be fixed in the next refresh.

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Moved to alpha 1.9 and its not crashing. Crash is due to the beta 15562. Running XP sp3 here. I submitted the dumps via the crash reporter. If you need them again let me know.

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So you see, crash dumps aren't always useful without context -- process logs et al. In the case of your crashes, I see at least one suspicious file hooked as a module: LGMSGHK.DLL, whatever that is. I'm not saying that's definitely the cause of the crash, but the point is that including a bit of context is more helpful than without. So again, process logs.

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> So you see, crash dumps aren't always useful without context

Are you saying my crash dump is not useful?

> LGMSGHK.DLL

Its a DLL Logitech Scroll Mouse.

> I'm not saying that's definitely the cause of the crash

The DLL has been around for as long as I've been using µTorrent. Its never been a problem before.

I'm not including a process log unless a BT developer asks me to send it by e-mail.

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Then you're not getting your issue troubleshot.

If there's an issue with interaction caused by a 3rd party application injecting itself, not only will the hijackthis/process explorer logs reveal it, others with the same issue can see it.

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Why are you assuming that its a 3rd party application issue. I hate it when µTorrent forum users get all defensive about µTorrent.

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@hermanm: And we hate it when users think we're getting defensive, and try to turn everything into politics. Nowhere did we say there was not a problem with µTorrent. It's called narrowing the possibilities down, and is standard troubleshooting procedure. But whatever, if you're going to refuse, we won't bother to push either.

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Also crashing with 15562. Dumps at http://se30.com/users/grindingbassline/tmp/15563_dumps.zip

Windows 2008 Server SP2 x64 Hyper-V role not enabled

[Edit: Here's a proc list]

Process: utorrent.exe Pid: 1284

Name Description Company Name Version

actxprxy.dll ActiveX Interface Marshaling Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

ADVAPI32.dll Advanced Windows 32 Base API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

advapi32.dll.mui Advanced Windows 32 Base API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

apphelp.dll Application Compatibility Client Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

apphelp.dll.mui Application Compatibility Client Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

C_936.NLS

CLBCatQ.DLL COM+ Configuration Catalog Microsoft Corporation 2001.12.6931.18000

COMCTL32.dll User Experience Controls Library Microsoft Corporation 6.10.6002.18005

comctl32.dll.mui User Experience Controls Library Microsoft Corporation 6.10.6001.18000

comdlg32.dll Common Dialogs DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

comdlg32.dll.mui Common Dialogs DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

credssp.dll TS Single Sign On Security Package Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

CRYPT32.dll Crypto API32 Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

crypt32.dll.mui Crypto API32 Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

DBGHELP.DLL Windows Image Helper Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

dhcpcsvc.DLL DHCP Client Service Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

dhcpcsvc.dll.mui DHCP Client Service Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

dhcpcsvc6.DLL DHCPv6 Client Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

dhcpcsvc6.dll.mui DHCPv6 Client Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

DnsApi.dll DNS Client API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

dnsapi.dll.mui DNS Client API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

DUser.dll Windows DirectUser Engine Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

duser.dll.mui Windows DirectUser Engine Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

FirewallAPI.dll Windows Firewall API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

FirewallAPI.dll.mui Windows Firewall API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

GDI32.dll GDI Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

ICMP.DLL ICMP DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

ieframe.dll Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

ieframe.dll.mui Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

iertutil.dll Run time utility for Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

IERtUtil.dll.mui Run time utility for Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

imageres.dll Windows Image Resource Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

imageres.dll.mui Windows Image Resource Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

IMM32.DLL Multi-User Windows IMM32 API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

index.dat

index.dat

index.dat

IPHLPAPI.DLL IP Helper API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

iphlpapi.dll.mui IP Helper API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

kernel32.dll Windows NT BASE API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

kernel32.dll.mui Windows NT BASE API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

loc2008.nls

loc2008.nls

LPK.DLL Language Pack Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

MSASN1.dll ASN.1 Runtime APIs Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

MSCTF.dll MSCTF Server DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

msctf.dll.mui MSCTF Server DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

msvcrt.dll Windows NT CRT DLL Microsoft Corporation 7.0.6002.18005

mswsock.dll Microsoft Windows Sockets 2.0 Service Provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

mswsock.dll.mui Microsoft Windows Sockets 2.0 Service Provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

napinsp.dll E-mail Naming Shim Provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

napinsp.dll.mui E-mail Naming Shim Provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

NETAPI32.dll Net Win32 API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

NLAapi.dll Network Location Awareness 2 Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

Normaliz.dll Unicode Normalization DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

npmproxy.dll Network List Manager Proxy Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

NSI.dll NSI User-mode interface DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

ntdll.dll NT Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

ntdll.dll NT Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

ntdll.dll.mui NT Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

NTMARTA.DLL Windows NT MARTA provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

ntmarta.dll.mui Windows NT MARTA provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

ole32.dll Microsoft OLE for Windows Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

ole32.dll.mui Microsoft OLE for Windows Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

OLEACC.dll Active Accessibility Core Component Microsoft Corporation 4.2.5406.0

oleaccrc.dll Active Accessibility Resource DLL Microsoft Corporation 4.2.5406.0

oleaut32.dll Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

PROPSYS.dll Microsoft Property System Microsoft Corporation 7.0.6002.18005

propsys.dll.mui Microsoft Property System Microsoft Corporation 7.0.6002.18005

PSAPI.DLL Process Status Helper Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

R000000000006.clb

rasadhlp.dll Remote Access AutoDial Helper Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

RASAPI32.dll Remote Access API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

rasapi32.dll.mui Remote Access API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

rasman.dll Remote Access Connection Manager Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

RPCRT4.dll Remote Procedure Call Runtime Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

rpcrt4.dll.mui Remote Procedure Call Runtime Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

rsaenh.dll Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

rtutils.dll Routing Utilities Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

SAMLIB.dll SAM Library DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

schannel.dll TLS / SSL Security Provider Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

Secur32.dll Security Support Provider Interface Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

sensapi.dll SENS Connectivity API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

SETUPAPI.dll Windows Setup API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

setupapi.dll.mui Windows Setup API Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

SHELL32.dll Windows Shell Common Dll Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

shell32.dll.mui Windows Shell Common Dll Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

shfolder.dll Shell Folder Service Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

SHLWAPI.dll Shell Light-weight Utility Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

shlwapi.dll.mui Shell Light-weight Utility Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

TAPI32.dll Microsoft® Windows Telephony API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

tapi32.dll.mui Microsoft® Windows Telephony API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

urlmon.dll OLE32 Extensions for Win32 Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

urlmon.dll.mui OLE32 Extensions for Win32 Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

USER32.dll Multi-User Windows USER API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

user32.dll.mui Multi-User Windows USER API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

USERENV.dll Userenv Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

userenv.dll.mui Userenv Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

USP10.dll Uniscribe Unicode script processor Microsoft Corporation 1.626.6002.18005

utorrent.exe µTorrent BitTorrent, Inc. 1.8.3.15562

UxTheme.dll Microsoft UxTheme Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

uxtheme.dll.mui Microsoft UxTheme Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

VERSION.dll Version Checking and File Installation Libraries Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

wininet.dll Internet Extensions for Win32 Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

wininet.dll.mui Internet Extensions for Win32 Microsoft Corporation 8.0.6001.18702

WINMM.dll MCI API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

winmm.dll.mui MCI API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

WINNSI.DLL Network Store Information RPC interface Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

winrnr.dll LDAP RnR Provider DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

WLDAP32.dll Win32 LDAP API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

wldap32.dll.mui Win32 LDAP API DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

wow64.dll Win32 Emulation on NT64 Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

wow64cpu.dll AMD64 Wow64 CPU Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

wow64win.dll Wow64 Console and Win32 API Logging Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6002.18005

WS2_32.dll Windows Socket 2.0 32-Bit DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

ws2_32.dll.mui Windows Socket 2.0 32-Bit DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

wship6.dll Winsock2 Helper DLL (TL/IPv6) Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

wship6.dll.mui Winsock2 Helper DLL (TL/IPv6) Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.16386

wshtcpip.dll Winsock2 Helper DLL (TL/IPv4) Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6001.18000

wshtcpip.dll.mui Winsock2 Helper DLL (TL/IPv4) Microsoft Corporation 6.0.6000.1638

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restart the computer is the easiest way to stop many unusual thing, but it is better to submit any crash dumps and process log to the developer to avoid any similar problems to happen again.

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I have an issue with 15562 also, however mine was not crashing.

I'm running Server 2008 x64.

After updating i could start the program fine, but all the trackers were stuck on "updating..." state. Also DHT was stuck on the connection state. The download/upload speeds were all 0.0k/s and it would just sit there doing nothing.

After downgrading back to 15520 everything worked fine again.

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lysp,

Sounds like you have a software firewall blocking...or Windows management isn't allowing the newer uTorrent version to have full internet access.

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