Ultima Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Yeah, looks like that was overlooked (same thing happened on a small torrent I just tested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICleolion Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Its just an update bug in the category list. It doesnt update till u re-open the program when u add persistent labels either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Yah, it's been established that it was probably something ludde overlooked ;PSidetrack...Whoa > 1.25 million, excluding beta? That's really impressive...So I was Googling "torrent" earlier to see how easy it was to find torrent sites (someone was asking about where to find torrents), and discovered that µTorrent is the third site listed. Yet another impressive feat, considering µTorrent's only been out for about 5 months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I think that the 1.4.1 betas only needs to get a few more bugfixes andthen µTorrent 1.5 can be released, I personally think the Web UI can wait until µTorrent 1.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroc Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 @Ultima:Alot of times when I try to help with troubleshooting, uTorrent be the first site listed....(listing the thread that someone wanted help with) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 One more time:A torrent starts out by downloading.When it has completed downloading, then it starts seeding.It then seeds until it reaches a certain ratio (typically 100%, aka 1:1).At that point, it is finished.Those are 3 different states. It is not finished until it has seeded for the specified time or the specified ratio. These states are already acknowledged and identified in the "STATUS" column.So, to define them differently in the Categories is just plain weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Actually this is not entirely accurate. The finished status is identified in the "status" column only when you stop a torrent that is seeding. I have torrents with ratios of 50,100,200 that are still showing as "seeding" because they are still running. (and I think that this is the way is should be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 finished just means a stopped torrent that's done downloading, that's all.stopped means a stopped torrent that's not done downloading.Also, all torrents seed forever by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 But not people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castle Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 the adoption of encryption seems to be pretty strong right now. I was on a torrent connected to 5 seed and 12 peers.... seven of those were encrypted.is peer exchange set up that you'll accept peers from others even when you haven't got it checked? I continue to see the X beside peers on some torrents even though I 'disabled' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 not all people you mean, i still have some seeds that i run from time to time since are "rare" torrents, so that one would never be "finished" in TheDude's definition, i surely wouldnt want to be looking for the same torrent in different categories all the timeas hofshi said, i also think that is the way it should be, and what do u know, it is currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 In the Official utorrent FAQ, it says:What do all these BitTorrent terms mean, such as seeder, snubbed, etc?See BTFAQ.com's Definitions of BitTorrent TermsOn that page, it says:downloading Receiving data FROM another computer.This clearly means that stopped torrents are not "downloading".On the same page, it also says:Once your client finishes downloading, it will remain open until you click the Finish button (or otherwise close it.) This is known as being a seed or seeding.note "until".It is "seeding" until you click the "Finish" button, when it becomes Finished.The Status column in utorrent uses the terms:DownloadingStoppedSeedingFinishedas four different things. Having the categories use the same words to mean different things is bad design.BTW, it seems that the words that some of you are looking for are Incomplete and Complete, which is actually the words used throughout the P2P world for what the two categories are in F7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 This discussion is just a debate over semantics. It may or may not be an important debate, but it certainly has nothing to do with "bad design" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 This discussion is just a debate over semantics. It may or may not be an important debate, but it certainly has nothing to do with "bad design"Except that the same words are used to mean different things in different parts of the program.That is the "bad design" part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Sounds more to me like bad documentation...bad design would be it doesn't work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Kalck Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 In the Official utorrent FAQ, it says:What do all these BitTorrent terms mean, such as seeder, snubbed, etc?See BTFAQ.com's Definitions of BitTorrent TermsOn that page, it says:downloading Receiving data FROM another computer.This clearly means that stopped torrents are not "downloading".On the same page, it also says:Once your client finishes downloading, it will remain open until you click the Finish button (or otherwise close it.) This is known as being a seed or seeding.note "until".It is "seeding" until you click the "Finish" button, when it becomes Finished.The Status column in utorrent uses the terms:DownloadingStoppedSeedingFinishedas four different things. Having the categories use the same words to mean different things is bad design.BTW, it seems that the words that some of you are looking for are Incomplete and Complete, which is actually the words used throughout the P2P world for what the two categories are in F7.I agree, those categories should be renamed, or new categories should be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Erf while I agree that the wording is inconsistent (I had been pondering about it while I was playing with the categories), it's not that big of a deal, and having 4 dynamic categories would lend itself to a quite a bit of confusion, IMO. Way too much movement through all the categories. Two is good enough -- unfinished, and finished (I know it's not labelled as that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 ok then, i think they should be:DownloadingSeedingCurrently Downloading (as in active downlaods)Currently Seeding (as in active seed tasks)but i still think the way it is right now is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 If people want two categories, that's cool.But then they should be "complete" and "incomplete".Or some other words that are different from the ones used in the Status column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joval Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Category view is awsome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I agree (with TheDude and joval) =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Then I'll agree with Ultima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 and I'll agree with Stone ..... and unsubscribe from this thread ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirvine Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't know wether this case is accidental, but all peers using µTorrent seems to have the same port as I do. Is this accidental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osm0sis Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 that's the default port in µTorrent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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