Firon Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 yeah, looks like Azureus released a build with the new PE spec after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 and it seems that it works for Local connections as well. I'm getting Az 2307 as DIE .(I hope it's not symbolic ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoJo Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Pocky888: Can you explain to what to degree this encryption helped so far? Your speeds seem from those pictures look as if you were still throttled ... the problem with throttling is your 100KB/s upstream is slowed down to like 10KB/s-0KB's, basically only the network overhead. From my prospective this feature is working intermittingly ... it needs to be refined.I think the encryption might be useleess to others if there is those many options for a user, as the risk of inter-operability bugs start to appear.Can Disable mode accept --> Legacy Connections, if so the box Labled Allow Legacy needs to be greyed out.Can enabled (Headers only) mode operate with enabled (All Traffic)? Here I think it gets buggy, seems that when one mode is contacting the other, it fails and tries the un-encrypted route.On the release, what will be the default setting, no doubt it should be the one with the best encryption/resources trade-off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Does_.C2B5Torrent_support_Protocol_Encryption.3F¬.¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Personally, I think it would be best to have only 3 encryption options:● Off● Encryption (all traffic)● Forced EncryptionScrew the "handshake only" crap. Then again, I didn't develop the Protocol so Ludde knows better than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think all the encryption options should be kept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 encrypting all traffic may not be necessary for many people, and don't forget that it DOES take up a chunk of CPU, which is why the handshake only mode is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 It seems like with my ISP throttling method, the Az 2307 encryption works better then the current µT Beta, as the Az user gets most of my upload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 The encryption is the same in both clients... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 maybe it's all the testing and fiddling around that we keep doing with this particular torrent, but the Az connection seems to stay with an E flag, while most of the time none of my connection with the other µtorrents are encrypted.Edit: my client is set to Enabled (all)Edit 2: also, my report is not "real time", I'm just checking how much has been uploaded to the Az client so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Firon: Understandable. Hofshi: Yep. How strange, that I see you lose the Encryption, then a while later it comes back on. Right now it's off again. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 yeah, I can't keep an encrypted connection with you for some reason. I do keep an encrypted connection with Pocky888 though. I think he is set to Forced.What is your Encryption setting?Edit: currently I see you as DHSX. Maybe the snubbing has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hofshi: I've always left it at Enabled (all traffic). Maybe I should force it? What do you think? Edit: now I see you as U IHX... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 let's give it a try. set it to Force and we'll see what happens. I bet it will change to E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 1c3d0g: BTW, I like your new avitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hofshi: I just did, but I don't see any change. :/ Maybe I need to restart µTorrent for it to take effect.P.S. I like my new avatar as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 For what it's worth, I'm experiencing the same thing Hofshi is. I have to Force Encryption AND turn off incoming legacy connections, then restart the torrent.-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 connections drop over time, and if the other peer doesn't have encryption on when they try to connect to you (instead of you to them), they'll connect to you in an unencrypted connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeppal Posted February 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I am trying out azurues to see how it works with PE. But can anyone tell me once i tick the box for encrypted transport, the other 2 boxes below which do i click for fallbackThx utorrent users Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKI Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 my stupid isp(rogers) has started to throttle bt now severely, only ports that were working full speed for bt were 1720 and 1755, but they've done something now and have those throttled too so i'm doomed and i really dont want to switch to any other isp because the rest pale in comparison, only issue rogers has is bt throttling which fucking sucks because bt is very important to me.. in order for this encryption thing to work good when the new utorrent/azureus clients come out shouldn't it have encryption enabled by default? if not everyone has it enabled then it wont work well, will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 TK1: it doesn't work like that. When you change it to encryption, all the seeds/peers you're connected to will accept your encrypted connection & return encrypted data back to you, even if these seeds/peers have encryption turned off. And encryption is turned off because for the majority of the users it is unnecessary (causes overhead) to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKI Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 oh i see.. cool then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Buzzard Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 @1c3d0g: All your ISP needs to see is one unencrypted bittorrent handshake and the port can be choked. Forcing outgoing connections to be encrypted is all well and good but if you also have unencrypted incoming connections attempts then encryption isn't going to do you any good. Now, hopefully, most ISP's will only choke outgoing, unencrypted handshakes; if they don't they're setting themselves up for a well deserved DoS attack that wouldn't even require more than one computer to have them choking their entire network.@TKI: Set it to Enabled, Always and if they start choking you again for the unencrypted incoming connections they'll probably stop within a week or two when some script kiddie smacks them down for being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 set PE Outgoing to Enable, alwaysuncheck "Allow legacy incoming connections"Pick a random port and restart the client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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