splintax Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Just thought I would post in here to let you all know about the new Opera beta..It's freaking awesome, with a whole bunch of features like widgets, tab preview images, a search editor and content blocker. I know a lot of the stuff is available as Firefox extensions, but none of those come close to having it integrated into the webbrowser itself (not to mention that Opera tends to be a lot more resource friendly than Firefox!)You can download TP2 at:http://labs.opera.comor have a quick look at the little review I did (just on first sight) here:http://splintax.blogspot.com/2006/02/opera-labs-and-opera-9-tp2.htmlSeriously, some of you Firefox fans should give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Firefox 0wns y'all! Meh, I've just tried it on a few sites, and it still doesn't render stuff properly. :| Like BeyondUnreal. In Firefox, the background is "dynamic", so even when you scroll down the page, it "follows" you. But in Opera the background is "glued" to the top and doesn't "move" at all. Just a minor glitch I know (and yes Firefox has its own quirks), but it irritates me. Not bad for the second-best browser, though. Edit: typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 splintax: what took you so long? I was counting on you to post the minute it came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffo Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Lets keep it on topic shall we..Have a look at this Opera Software today announced that it has teamed with BitTorrent Inc. to include the BitTorrent™ protocol in the upcoming version of the Opera Web browser. Integrating this popular technology in the Opera browser means faster and more efficient downloads of large files.a competitor, hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 well, unless they add all the function like µTorrent has, the integrated bt client in Opera can't compete with for example µTorrent.Another thing, who knows if this integrated bt client will have a call-home feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 funny.. i'll never leave my browser minimized for seeding a torrent or downloading anything.. browse and close..there are special programs for anything else.. opera is not doing its job as a browser correct (as 1c3d0g said) and u want it to be a bitorrent client or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is what I like in FF and miss in Opera: the modularity of the browser. You have various extensions, and are able to pick what you like, and what you like to stay out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStaindHurricane Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Can't wait to try out the new beta. Opera forever.edit: Just had a look at all of the new features at Opera Labs, and I'm even more excited. How could the best browser get even better? Have you been using TP2, splintax, and if so, have you noticed any differences in performance/bugs/etc? This is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I keep trying Opera.....just....cant....seem....to.....get.................................into it........FF ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 splintax: what took you so long? I was counting on you to post the minute it came out. heh, well I had to work I agree with you hofshi - the modularity is nice, but the fact remains that even a totally clean Firefox is slower than Opera. Why stick with Firefox just because it doesn't have the features you want when you can try them out in Opera and get faster performance anyway? oh, and a couple new awesome features: Gmail now works correctly with RTF support, and tab previews edit: It still doesn't do any better on the Acid2 test (there are one or two bugs left, since I'm not sure if the nose is meant to flash blue on mouseover) but the rendering engine is improved somewhat. I think that Gecko (Firefox's rendering engine) just has a better "quirks mode" than Opera - that is, it renders poorly-written pages better; Opera will render all standards-compliant pages perfectly, as should Firefox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStaindHurricane Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I guess its hard for others to think that way when they've been so "comfortable" with a browser for so long. I made my switch to Opera from Maxthon. That was even uncomfortable for me, being so familiar w/ Maxthon. However, during that switch, I also gave FF a chance and it was by far the worst browsing experience I've ever encountered...slow/late in responding, heavy, too many extensions to download to get what I want, etc...Not to mention that Opera was far prettier. Not trying to start yet another "Battle of the browsers", but you guys that havent should try it exclusively for a fair amount of time. Could take weeks to finally get used to, but in the end, you're almost sure to agree that its better overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winMX_67 Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 How do you use the bittorrent in opera (not that I would, just curious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noname Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 It's freaking awesome, with a whole bunch of features like widgets, tab preview images, a search editor and content blocker. I know a lot of the stuff is available as Firefox extensions, but none of those come close to having it integrated into the webbrowser itself (not to mention that Opera tends to be a lot more resource friendly than Firefox!)May you explain to me the uses of these features? Even in FF I didn't understand what's the point of tab previewing, content blocking and the search editor.Also I can't quite get the hang of when it opens a new tab in a new browser window.Edit: Nevermind about the opening tabs part. Just found out they changed the shortcut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masa Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 winMX: just download a .torrent file, and opera should automatically use its own bt client to download it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 one of the uses that are important for me in FF is checking Gmail accounts. For that use there is a nice extension called "Gmail manager" which allows to check multiple accounts simultaneously, and easily access each one of them:http://www.longfocus.com/firefox/gmanager/https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=1320Last time I tried Opera, I couldn't find something that would function the same.Has the situation changed? If so, I might give Opera a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledgeDG Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 funny.. i'll never leave my browser minimized for seeding a torrent or downloading anything.. browse and close..there are special programs for anything else.. opera is not doing its job as a browser correct (as 1c3d0g said) and u want it to be a bitorrent client or whatever1c3d0g obviously didn't set his browser up right. Opera renders that site just fine. The only pages that give you trouble are the ones with non standard M$ bullsh*t....exactly the same pages firefox trips overBTW: before some clowns start calling me Opera fanboy...I'm using FF since 0.7xx and now Deer Park 1.5 since 1.61 nightlies still keep crashing@boo: I don't think Opera's BT-implimentation will ever pose a "threat" to µTorrent since it uses it's old low-grafic, low-information download system. I woud see it more as a convenience piece for guys that can't be bothered installing a client but learn that their fav. software is distributet via BT@hofshi: I use GMail manager and I would't want to miss it. I haven't seen anything like that in Opera. But you might want to take a look at "PoP-Peeper" instead. It's a litte POP3 Checker which periodically checks all your mail accounts (even Hotmail and Yahoo!!) click me-DG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 SledgeDG: thanks. I tried Pop-Peeper in the past, but I'd like to have something more like Gmail manager because I find it very convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 When you scroll down all the way to the end of the page...Firefox:Opera:...where's the background in the second image? :/ As you can see, I'm not bullshitting - that's exactly how it renders BeyondUnreal on my PC. And if "I didn't set up my browser properly", please, enlighten me on how to do so. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technarch Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 1c3d0g report it as a bug to Opera before the final version gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted February 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I see where hofshi is coming from, and admit that that is the #1 advantage of Firefox. I'm definitely all for these kind of extensions, but things like AdBlock IMO should not be implemented as extensions. This, FYI, is what Opera's "content blocker" is, basically the same as Firefox's AdBlock extension, it allows you to block content from certain sites like ads, flash etc. (Not that I use it, since I usually don't mind looking at/clicking on ads and supporting the proprietors..)I'm not sure of a similar Gmail extension, though I'd imagine you could set up a gmail login button on your personal bar, then just use Wand (ctrl+enter or other key/mouse combo) and after entering all your usernames and passwords the first time, you'd just be able to pick one or the other. I question why you need multiple Gmail accounts though I guess its hard for others to think that way when they've been so "comfortable" with a browser for so long.Definitely, I'd known about Opera and other browsers (this is a while before Firefox became popular, but Opera was the first "alternative" browser I heard about) for at least a year before I could be bothered switching from IE, since you "don't really need to". At the time tabbed browsing wasn't something I thought I needed, but I couldn't live without it now.How do you use the bittorrent in opera (not that I would, just curious).If you click a .torrent file, Opera should auto-begin the BitTorrent download. You can disable it in opera:config (type that into the address bar); personally I have .torrents set to transparently redirect to µTorrent, it doesn't even maximize from the systray when adding a new torrent. May you explain to me the uses of these features? Even in FF I didn't understand what's the point of tab previewing, content blocking and the search editor.Tab previewing is kinda useless, granted, well at least for most people - when hovering over a tab you can get Opera to display a "preview" image of the content of that tab. You can also set an advanced option to display that preview in the CTRL+Tab menu.The search editor allows you to configure "quick searches", I think Firefox already has this feature through an extension of some sort, where typing for example "g stuff" in the address bar would search Google for "stuff". You can now set up different search engines and different keywords (like "g" for google, "i" for imdb etc) without mucking around with .ini files, like I used to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 1c3d0g report it as a bug to Opera before the final version gets released.Done. I went to Help ▶ Report a site problem... Hopefully they'll fix it before Opera goes final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofshi Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I question why you need multiple Gmail accounts though tongue1. multiple users of the same computer2. account for regular emails, and an account for sites you don't fully trust but require registeringBTW, the Gmail manager extension is far more convenient then using the Opera Wand or the FF equivalent of the Wand, since it also functions as a real time notifier for all Gmail accounts. Give it a try.Edit: here is a short summary of features: Manage multiple Gmail accounts Receive new mail notifications Tooltip with account details including new mail snippets One-click access for loading Gmail in a tab/window Mailto: links detection Quick mail compose menu for Gmail accounts Customizable icon placement in the statusbar or toolbar area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffo Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 1c3d0g report it as a bug to Opera before the final version gets released.Done. I went to Help ▶ Report a site problem... Hopefully they'll fix it before Opera goes final.probably not, because it shows just perfect here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStaindHurricane Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Shows perfect for me too, icedog.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 That's quite interesting...I'm using 9.0 TP2 (the most recent one that came out a few days ago). Not sure what's up with that site, my PC and Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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