ST-F1 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have been downloading fine till today. Regardless of the torrent or tracker that I add it's the status message on the tracker tab. I had been using uT 2.0 beta but had clean install (removing all previous files from user/****/appdata/roaming/utorrent) to the current stable version 1.8.5 (build 17414) but the problem still exists and had checked port forwarding and its all set up correctly.Could you please help me asap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Does the problem persist with openoffice torrents?Any idea what changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryE Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have been researching this issue for one of the members on one of the torrent sites I staff. It turns out (according to the user) that his ISP is: "Think it was to do with my isp, they are testing some software that encourages the bt users to connect to local peers/seeds rather than ones on the other side of the world."If you are located in the UK this might well be your problem. If you are not (in the UK) it could still be your problem but it is far less likely.The user in question tried using another torrent client and got a similar error so it does not look to me like this is uTorrent issue (he first reported the error using 1.8.4).FWIW he is no longer experiencing the problem.HTHGary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 ISPs that want to do that sort of encouragement should look into BEP22 instead of this sort of interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-F1 Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 yeah have just tested with openoffice torrent its tracker and download working fine.I'm now worried that it's my ISP, yes I am from the UK I hope their are only testing it....*Although today trackers are working again but do not connect to any peers or seeders, only DHT, PEER EXCHANGE and LOCAL PEER EXCHANGE.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoH1N1 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 HiI am having the EXACT same problem since yesterday. Even the sequence of events is identical. I think if we are with the same ISP it makes it very likely that it is an ISP-related problem. Are you with O2 as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertualred Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Oh my God I'm with O2!Is the problem with that ISP or with ALL of them and is this problem in the UK only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevjo Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hi folks, im having the same problem since 7:30 last night and guess what?I am also with 02.I was blaming it on a windows update which i downloaded last night but now im convinced its 02. Although it seems my downloads are from the one specific site which i use regurarly for downloading and uploading. I am able to download fine from other known sites.Can anyone tell me is O2 pulling the plug on downloading or is a problem with the servers that could actually get fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-F1 Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 yh you guys are right I'm with 02 as well .... it looks like O2 ISP problem!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoH1N1 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I have sent a query to O2. If the ARE throttling p2p traffic it completely goes against what they state on their official site. I will let you know when I get a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevjo Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 NoH1N1 I look forward to reading what you get back. Just out of curiosity, can any of you guys tell me where you are trying to download from?I use a sight called Speed.cd.... Thats the one im now having probs with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clout Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm on Be*, which use the same infrastructure as O2, and have seen the same issue over the past few days. I have another internet connection on a different ISP (Demon/Thus) which returns the correct peer results for the same tracker queries.It only seems to affect some trackers from what very little testing I've done so far, those with announce urls on tcp port 80 and 81 - I seem to get correct replies for trackers using obscure/high tcp ports. Not tested with udp announce urls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 So are the port 80 and 81 trackers timing out or generating some other error message in the Trackers window/tab?A proxy for tracker updates only might work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertualred Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Not sure why but everything went back to normal right after midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-F1 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I second that, now everything gone back to normal its all fine.BUT NoH1N1 could you lets us know the reply from O2 regarding you question please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clout Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I can confirm from the Be* forums that they are testing something called "peer localisation" on their network (I guess this extends to O2), where they intercept announce requests, and sort/modify the peer list to attempt to force your client (not restricted to utorrent) to more local peers rather than on the other side of the world.Looks like it's still in the testing phase at the moment. I guess I'll post more info from there as it comes up or as people ask and if/as I get time, since I think it's good for the more general public to know about these sort of things which are going on.EDIT: My connection returned back to normal at midnight as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Their tests have automatically failed if they're intercepting requests that way.They NEED to follow the BEP I linked above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I don't get it. How does an ISP roll out a customer-impacting change without first doing some internal testing? Such a problem as missing peers list would have been an obvious catch if they'd bothered to run the filter internally first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 How indeed!Examples of ISPs disrupting far more than BitTorrent:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/21/tiscali_itunes_blocked/http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/10/comcast-traffic-blocking-even-more-apps-groupware-clients-affected.arshttp://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=502585"happening to my guild as well, all across australia connecting to an australian vent server. Vent is totally useless and it is only people on iinet."http://www.ventrilo.com/forums/showpost.php?s=3a02c88a4be6b323ce2273574e96a2c8&p=30889&postcount=9"apparently, to my ISP's "packet shaping" software, ventrilo appears to be some sort of database server so it was flagged to be given a much lower amount of bandwidth than other types of programs. took them about 60 seconds to fix it and ventrilo has been great ever since!"World of Warcraft on Time Warner Cable/RoadRunner:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=383541927&sid=1http://text.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Cable-Vs-The-Horde-86509 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Throttling is a global thing meant to be applied to all (or a large chunk of) traffic, though, whereas a change like this targeted purely at the tracker response is extremely narrow in scope. To test it is as simple as checking the filtered message to see if the peers key matches what is expected, and if they had actually tested it, they would have noticed that they completely broke the tracker response. But whatever, maybe it's easy for me to complain because I'm not the one sitting behind their walls seeing everything that could go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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