Firon Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 OO is also horribly slow and bloated. It's also incredibly slow at loading ANY document. I mean, they've done benchmarks, and it can take several minutes to load spreadsheets and presentations... :/.NET does a better job at being cross-platform (when combined with stuff like mono# and so on) without being as slow or resource hogging as Java, but it's still not -THAT- great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColton Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 RePO: Keep Preaching It Brother! It's nice to hear from someone who actually programs for a living.Regarding .Net and it's memory consumption, the framework is built to use the RAM you have free. If you have 512 MB of RAM, and 200 MB is free, it doesn't really matter if a program uses 4 MB or 40 MB. I will agree that it's nice to have custom built libraries with optomizations, however, sometimes it's nicer to borrow the work someone else has already done and get your software completed quicker. Nothing against the uTorrent dev team (actually I'm very impressed), but would you rather see more features completed quicker with higher resource requirements, or slower development but better resource management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I'd rather see slower development but better resource management...if you want more features go back to Azureus. Nothing wrong with that, choose the client you like best, but don't mess up this one. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Well, in µT's case, we get lightning quick development coupled with great resource management. And it's one guy. What's your excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind~oz Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 every ressource count so i leave all these bogus java & non java apps for the small tiny & fast smart µtorrent that's all Keep it up and don't let the code blows ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Buzzard Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 @JColton: I do code for a living but you couldn't pay me enough to inflict a java or .NET app on innocent lusers.If it doesn't have to be cross-platform, code it in C/C++. If it does, code it in perl/python/ruby/etc and tk. If that's not an option code it in C/C++ anyway and write the extra code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shkbobo Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Well, in µT's case, we get lightning quick development coupled with great resource management. And it's one guy. What's your excuse?Well said, and everyone can agree that µTorrent updates come out pretty darn fast and obviously the resource management is what it's known for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Well, in µT's case, we get lightning quick development coupled with great resource management. And it's one guy. What's your excuse?Well said? No, 'nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 @JColton: If people here wanted more features for more resource usage, I don't think they'd be flocking to µTorrent, they'd use Azureus... so this is an odd place to be asking that O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Buzzard Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Good point, might as well be pitching linux over on a MS newsgroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev0| Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 .NET (the 2.0 version anyway) doesn't have to be slow or bloated. Take a look at Paint.NET 2.6 for an example of a program written in C# that doesn't have slow start up times and does an awesome job. I really think they should have included it in Vista, but they didn't.There isn't a decent torrent application written in C# 2.0 yet. So we cannot compare resource usage of such an application to µtorrent or Azureus. I think it would probably come in between the two. Nothing's going to beat µtorrent, but I know you could write a very nicely performing C# client that would not be as ugly resource wise as Azureus is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Buzzard Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 You could write an extremely functional operating system, a nice console shell, and a mildly pretty GUI that's not as ugly resource-wise as Az. Hell, you could almost write a fork bomb that's not as ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I will agree that if it comes down to choosing a Java app and a .NET app, I'll go with the latter. That is, of course, if there are no other alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColton Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Well, in µT's case, we get lightning quick development coupled with great resource management. And it's one guy. What's your excuse?My excuse: If I had someone half as good as you, keeping whiny users away from me so I could just sit at my desk and code I'd be twice as productive. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Buzzard Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 See, that's when you pull out your stun gun and wave a pretty blue arc in the air. If they don't take a hint, which they probably will, wave it through their leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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