iycgtptyarvg Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I upgraded to v2.0.1 a couple of weeks ago, but ever since I did that I can no longer browse the Internet. All the pages I try to visit (in Firefox) time out when I have µTorrent running. I checked the 'transposition' value and it was at 31 (the default).Is there a setting I could try to avoid it from completely clogging my network?For now I've reverted to v1.85, and the problems went away immediately.Please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindfiels Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 My PC has the same problem with this version.... It slows down when I start uTorrent. And it is not a ICore with Win 7 x64, but an old AMD Sempron 2800+ with Win XP SP3 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 You might want to try out a few tips for up-graders - in this post. Focus on section C - if the Internet is being chocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggybig Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Why limiting the download considering the upload ? It worked extremely well before.Now, it just sucks balls.Where can i have archived versions 1.8 or 1.9 or even 2.0.0.0.0.0.0, where i don't have to tweak my prefs to have full speed downloads ?Why did u decide this non sense btw. I do what i want with my connection.Limits, limits, limits. Extremely disappointed with this version. I've been with uTorrent for years, from 1.1.7, and this one SUCKS in capital letters.Really unhappy user.I don't care if you think im ungratefull and unpolite. You turned a nice client into a horse shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Disable net.calc_overhead if you want the old behavior. The whole point of it is so you don't have to worry about exceeding your upload limit, even while downloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous1 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 And dont forget that all uT before 2.0, respect all limit, even with overhead, only 2.0 didnt...So I dont know what you are talking about biggybig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsa Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Firon,Firstly, I appreciate all time time and effort you and everyone else give ....The UL stalling issue is almost untenable for users trying to share or maintain a 1:1(ADSL2+)The really bizarre thing is if I kick off another DL all the other seeds start seeding fasterthen 4-24 hrs after DL completion back to (who am I ? what should I be doing? 10k sounds enough)If this is screwed fine lets us know to wait for the update, (If you guys know what it is)Anyway, Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iycgtptyarvg Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Rafi, I don't like your suggestion for the new version. You claim I should lower my upload speed from maximum to something like 75% or so.Even after I do that, I cannot surf the Internet properly anymore.On the other hand, when I use v1.8.5 at unlimited speed, I can still browse the Internet.Unfortunately, I'm very disappointed with the changes since the people from Bittorrent.com took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Disable uTP or get a better router. The only reason you can't surf properly is because your router is crapping out.As more and more clients implement uTP, it's gonna keep being a problem for you with your current router, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 iycgtptyarvg: You claim I should lower my upload speed from maximum to something like 75% or soIt's just poor wording. My intention was that you should usually make it *at least* that much. This is true with default settings (calc_overhead = true) if: A. you have an unbalanced line (say 1:10) B. you like to get full DL speeds. It is also what the uT internal setup-guide suggests. The more accurate "rules of thumb" should be - make the upload limit at least ~7% of the maximum download you like to have (or >=15% if you are using uTP). The 75% number was to leave some bandwidth for other apps to breath (at least with TCP). So, living it unlimited - is OK and up to you. The only problem I can see - is that now you are being capped by your ISP max upload, and I believe this release has some issues with calculating overhead under this condition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous1 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 And also in build 2.0.1 b19248, help file (2.0.0 b17774) isnt downloaded right for this uT version...you really should do like rafi said in post #189, to avoid this unnecessary mess ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 wow... you keep track of my posts that long ? ... well, they did half the job actually, I think they did post the latest help file there but where too lazy to change the date-text on the site ... Also - people do not know they have to rename the file after they download/extract it - to utorrent-201-19248.chm for it to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iycgtptyarvg Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Disable uTP or get a better router. The only reason you can't surf properly is because your router is crapping out.As more and more clients implement uTP, it's gonna keep being a problem for you with your current router, though.I don't even use a router, so that cannot be it. So, you are saying that if I disable uTP I will be able to upload at maximum speed, and still use the Internet (like v1.8.5)?If so, please tell me which exact setting I would have to change. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Uncheck "Enable bandwidth management" under BitTorrent.But if you'd like to try debugging it instead, post a new thread in Troubleshooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 aren't you confused, Firon ?... shouldn't this settings be giving you the least congestion possible ? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 There's a small number of cases where the user's networking hardware is so broken they just can't use uTP. Nothing we can really do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iycgtptyarvg Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I've tested with v2.0.1 with 'Enable bandwidth management' off for some hours now, and I can confirm that I can download and upload at full speed again (20Mb / 1Mb). Also, Internet works perfectly again.I don't know what is being 'managed', but it clearly doesn't work for some people.Thanks for the tip. Rafi, perhaps you should put this tip in your FAQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsa Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 20mb/1mbI had used the above recommendationscalc. overhead falsemanagement offtcp.control rate falsewould not improve.... reboots of everything...Set trans disposition to 15 (was 21) MAGIC! it now works?????I am totally confused with this client is this OK?Also I just set 4 more as seeding and it stops?go back to 3 works?very weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Registered Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 utorrent v2.0.1.19248Dropping one torrent command file (for the torrent to load into gui) at a time, works well.Dropping two or more onto the gui at the same times always exits utorrent. Where previous versions would be ok with doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlyshadow Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Is there any setting that should i set to get closer speed to HTTP/FTP downloading?Torrents are downloading 10-15 kb/s slower.I know too many factors affect download speed of torrents but I mean in best situation.regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 you could set bt.transp_disposition = 5 in advanced settings, to remove utp overhead and get that extra speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainless Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 When I used the red cross (remove) in the toolbar in he past it deleted just the torrent file, now it also deletes all associated data.Just found athe solution, must first think then post, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippoed Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 using v2.01 b19248can i uncheck enable bandwidth management (bt preferences) and still maintain in (advanced preferences)bt trans disposition = 26 (i want it only udp and the new udp)bt tcp rate control = falseor is bt trans disposition supposed to change when i uncheck enable bandwidth management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frnaado Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 And a more generic question based on FuGGer postWhich is the equivalence matrix of bt.transp_disposition and "enable bandwidth management" ?For example if I check "enable bandwidth management" I have 31 in bt.transp_disposition?If I uncheck "enable bandwidth management" what is the number of bt.transp_disposition?Also the last action matters? For example if I do it in reverse (set the bt.transp_disposition to some number say 5) and then check "enable bandwidth management" then I have 31 or no at the bt.transp_disposition?Or the bt.transp_disposition always override the "enable bandwidth management" setting, either checked or not? Can you clarify?Thank youPS. suggestionWhy you not synchronize the two options. I think it is clearer to the end user. If someone checks the "enable bandwidth management" the bt.transp_disposition changes accordingly. If someone need to hack the value and it differs from what "enable bandwidth management" means (my third question about the number), then you uncheck the "enable bandwidth management" automatically if does not correspond to the proper number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 FuGGer: yes. just set bt trans disposition = 26 and don't touch "bandwidth management " after that.frnaado: enabled = 31 (uTP + TCP), disabled = 21 (TCP only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.