rafi Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Whassup : Is the upload speed correct on the new release...As far as I can see - it is correct, IF you count in the overhead. Though, the seeding overhead is still huge with uTP. With low upload connections you can get to up-to 35% overhead!Here is what I see (RC1 build 18973):And the reason: still much smaller packets are being used by uTP:TCP uTP(87% large packets) (32% large packets) Other small issues:* "send to player" - should be off the graph legend* RSS -> "all feeds" is still lacking the "disable" menu item Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsoh Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 when i download, still getting build 18833.where's build 18973??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123459 Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 status bar info cuts-outfont dpi 120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=467550#p467550Previously discussed. I maintain that this is indeed poorly thought out design, and have been complaining since v2.0.1 was first released with this status bar format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogly Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 I have the same problem since first's releases of version 2.0.I still use version 1.8.5 because that.I've seen some users complaining about this, but nobody show interest.Read this thread, and provide the dump if you can.http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=472978#p472978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 When I upload to the Internet (for example, with a browser) and at the same time download/seed with uT (using uTP) - it seems that uT stops DLing/seeding completely! I thought uT should co-exist nicely with other apps under congestion conditions... http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/300/utcong1.png http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2372/utcong2.pnghttp://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3263/utcong3.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agmt Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I've found settings, with which utorrent doesn't hangs(Win7x64)... http://www.mediafire.com/?jyzjmligtncMay be change "bt.transp_disposition = 5" helps... Or anything else. I don't want test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenzieTN Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I'm having problems with screeching when I play back what I download. What am I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhong881209 Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 @rafii was wondering the same thing why my DL/UL drop so much after i update from 2.0 to 2.0.1 or 2.1.when i playing online games, uT just drop to constant below 10kB/s on my 512kbps connection, sometime even constant below 2kB/s until i close my games. this problems wasnt there when i alpha and beta testing 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Do you have a firewall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fowl Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Oh noes! Not again. I thought we were past this. :-([2010-04-12 21:55:12] ReadFile error: <redacted>:22729015296:16384:16384:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseiler Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 With uTP disabled (Enable Bandwidth Management unchecked), I'm seeing 40-50% overhead, as reported on the status bar. That is, for example U [50kB] 25kB/s O: 22kB/s. How can this be? Overhead should be more on the order of 10%. Win7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_cougar Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 And once again, do you have any downloads active?.. Downloads DO generate upload overhead and vice versa... (Oh my...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 If you're downloading, downloading generates significant overhead. It's the nature of how TCP and UDP work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseiler Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Yes, I do. I was only dl'g at about .5 MB/s though. I know from past versions of uT and other dl'g, however, that overhead is nowhere near this high. .5MB/s wouldn't even equate to 10KB/s UL overhead before v2.01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 2.0.1 shows you overhead. 2.0 did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fowl Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 [2010-04-13 00:17:33] IO Error:1168 line:396 align:-99 pos:-99 count:112000 actual:1602[2010-04-13 00:17:33] ReadFile error: cctibfs.zip:0:112000:112000:3[2010-04-13 01:07:40] ReadFile error: Season 4\<redact> - Hope and Glory.avi:26665287680:16384:16384:16[2010-04-13 06:57:10] IO Error:1168 line:396 align:-99 pos:-99 count:112000 actual:1602[2010-04-13 06:57:10] ReadFile error: cctibfs.zip:0:112000:112000:3[2010-04-13 06:58:31] IO Error:1168 line:396 align:-99 pos:-99 count:112000 actual:1602[2010-04-13 06:58:31] ReadFile error: cctibfs.zip:0:112000:112000:3[2010-04-13 06:59:22] IO Error:1168 line:396 align:-99 pos:-99 count:112000 actual:1602[2010-04-13 06:59:22] ReadFile error: cctibfs.zip:0:112000:112000:3More element not found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSUdvm2b Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 EDIT: Nevermind, had nothing to do with uTorrent. Stupid coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseiler Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I don't get it then. Since when is there more (or at least equal) overhead as compared to actual upload? I've done more testing now, and when dl'g is at its most active, around 1MB/s, overhead actually dwarfs ul (out of 50KB/s, overhead hangs at around 80-90%, leaving almost nothing for actual ul). If I increase to 100KB/s, overhead doesn't drop below about 80%.Remember that I don't even have uTP enabled. Rafi, above, expressed surprise that he saw a mere 35% overhead *with* it.It used to be that overhead was in the minority. In past threads, I've read of "5% ACK" back when we were discussing the effects of enabling/disabling net.calc_overhead. Now it's so much higher that DLs are obviously affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I don't follow you. In TCP you should expect 5% oh, that is ~50k UL for 1M DL. It`s the acks. whatever is the leftover to your UL limit or connection bndwidth if towards the real upload. isn't this what you are actually describing?with uTP - 35% (when seeding or abit less when downloading at limitted rate - is much more then in tcp, and I don't think it's worth the congestion management (yet to be seen...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_cougar Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I feel a bit of misunderstanding here... A lot of people DO NOT understand what the overhead is... I'm sure most of them think that overhead should be ZERO in the very ideal case, and any high number means simply "uTorrent behaves bad and can't use the full potential of the connection"... It'll be better to hide actual overhead numbers somewhere and not display them in the main window...UPD:The simple rule: NEVER set your UL limit less than 10% of your DL limit and vice versa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondoy Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I looking for overhead on Transfer History which purple on 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-xdk Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 µRemote 2.3.2 dodsn´t work with µtorrent build 18973 it worked fine in build 18833this is the error i get from µRemote's log --> Message:The server committed a protocol violation. Section=ResponseHeader Detail=CR must be followed by LF--> StackTrace: at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse() at uRemote.Connection.GetWebResponse(String pURL, String pUsername, String pPassword, String pDomain)--> Data:System.Collections.ListDictionaryInternal--> Error Code:Connection.cs:186 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogly Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Post in the thread about µRemote, it's an independant application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-xdk Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 if utorrent broke uremote im not going to write in the uremote tread.the fault lies in utorrent 18973 as build 18833 works fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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