IQ70 Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dear luddeI have been frustrated, like many others, in finding a very simple and effective music player.I would not name any player so as to refrain from starting a mudslinging competition but would request a very simple music player+library to be coded by the people who made the best torrent software ever.Few things it could do, and do real well:1. Play few formats: mp3, ogg, flac (no midi, wma, aac or anything drm'ed)2. Display albumart: folder.jpg3. Use a simple explorer like interface to browse files: (wouldnt mind a musikcube/wxmusik like library interface too)4. RSS support for podcasts.5. Presets for hip-hop, rock, classical, heavy metal, jazz.6. Crossfade.7. Volume and Seek bars. (added as an afterthought to tease Firon :-) )I am not asking for something immediately. Take your time, think if it sounds like you might be interested in.~ IQ70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 foobar2000 with columns ui, just keep the components to a minimum! XDAAC isn't DRMed fyi, it's as open as mp3 not exactly that simple though, I know. but I <3 fb2k and will use it forevarrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ70 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 foobar2000 with columns ui, just keep the components to a minimum! XDAAC isn't DRMed fyi, it's as open as mp3 not exactly that simple though, I know. but I <3 fb2k and will use it forevarrrrrOK, I refrained from posting player names for the exact same reason.foobar isnt the best that there can be, it doesnt even have a volume control.And it uses 8K memory just playing one mp3.I have complaints about every player, so dont mind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 It does have volume control. Try double clicking where it says 0.00dB You can also set hotkeys for the volume control.In any case, it's better to control volume on the speakers, since you don't lose bit depth so readily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ70 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 The thing is, if fb was made 10% simpler than it is, in doing what it can do; people would have abandoned winamp, qmp, wmp, itunes, etc. Software needs to be idiot-proof and need no tweaking for 90% people to use. (The other 10% ofcourse love what radiator hose improves horsepower by 0.5%)Azureus was supposed to be the best till about last year.Bitcomet was supposed to be the fastest till about last year.Shadows' was supposed to be the elitest till about last year.This year changed everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I know, foobar2000's just not oriented towards the average idiot (no offense to you), it's really more for power users I guess. I love it because I can do so much with it, and everything I wanna do, it does -perfectly.- But it's not simple (unless all you need is playback of files, in which case it's the simplest of all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 i dont consider myself an idiot but i prefer things to be simple.. and i dont want to set fb manually.. i havent seen a perfect music player by now.. winamp is closest to that because of it's simplicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ70 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 This thread is ridiculous...why the hell would Ludde waste time with crap like this? :/frankly, i dunno.the question though is, would you use something like this if it was as good as uT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Doubtful, as it would have to be better than XMMS, and as we all know, XMMS and clones (#2, Beep etc.) are King in audio...at least, IMHO. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaV Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 amaroK ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 winamp, ugh, legacy code hell, so many hacks and broke things x.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosblade Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Foobar2000. Plain and friggin simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 There's a component to add a Volume slider if you're using ColumnsUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLion Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 foobar2000 FTW, simple as you want it to be and complex as you need it to be, (unless you like pretty colors/skins...I dont..). Just play the damn file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 EXACTLY. foobar2000 does this with minimal resources too, while being unbelievably configurable. If you stare at your media player, it's a little... odd... and if you like to control what you play next, you don't need a playlist (this wasn't directed at you, IQ70 ;P). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 // check if all standard tags are present$if($meta_test(title,artist,album),// formatting for files with tags:// check if track belongs to VA album$if($or($stricmp(%album artist%,VA),$stricmp($left(%album artist%,7),various)),$puts(va,1),)// 'album' formatting$puts(album,%album%)$puts(tracknum,$ifgreater(%tracknumber%,0,%tracknumber% - ,))//if 'album artist' tag is present$if(%album artist%,// set 'artist' to VA for VA albums, and to 'album artist' otherwise:$if($get(va),$puts(artist,VA),$puts(artist,%album artist%))//if 'artist' is different from 'album artist', append the former to the title$if($strcmp(%album artist%,%artist%),$puts(title,%title%),$puts(title,%artist% - %title%)),//no 'album artist' found$puts(artist,%artist%)$puts(title,%title%))// formatting for files without all the tags:,$if(%title%,$puts(title,%title%)$if(%artist%,$puts(artist,%artist%))$if(%album%,$puts(album,%album%)),$puts(title,$if($stricmp($left(%_path_raw%,7),'http://'),%_path_raw%,$replace(%_filename_ext%,_, )))))$num(%_playlist_number%,$len(%_playlist_total%)).' '[$get(album) - ][$get(artist) - ][$get(tracknum)][$get(title)][$char(9)$if(%_isplaying%,'|> ')%_length%][%album% - ][%artist% - ]$if2(%title%,$replace(%_filename%,_, )) '['[%_length%/][%__bitrate%Kbps/][%__mod_channels%ch/]$replace($div(%__samplerate%,1000)KHz,0KHz,44KHz)/$replace($ifgreater(%__channels%,2,%__channels%ch ,),6,5.1)$codec()']'Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ70 Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I didn't come asking for suggestions for fb2k configs or for a discussion of what is available out there at the moment for the geeks. Most might have a favorite music player just like you had a favorite torrent software and swore by it before uT.I am sure last year a post of making a simpler and effective torrent software would have gotten responses like "BitComet. Plain and friggin simple."The question is different. Is a uT-like music player a feasible idea. If yes, why? If not, why not?Just cause there exist many other softwares which do some things better than others doesn't mean that there is no room for improvement.Look at the excitement of songbird player. The hype and the product are no way comparable.It is being touted as the itunes of the new generation, one without bloat and restrictions.One that can take media management of itunes and the open-source of mozilla and combine into a dream-come-true player.uT will soon reach a stage of refinement soon for its programmers to want to spread out to other ideas.uP might not be a bad idea, is all I wanted to say. There is a need for a easier, simpler solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I'm sure whoever starts to code another audio player (again), pretty soon assholes will begin asking "I want it to play video too". Which is exactly the problem with most software packages today. Morons want one piece of software to do everything for them. No wonder things are bloated, slow as hell, and buggy. KISS, damn it! :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Personally, I'm happy with foobar. BTW, vurlix is no longer associated with µT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hace Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 You can check out:billy (http://sheepfriends.com/?page=billy)andEvil Player (http://evilplayer.server-host.com/index.php)very simple and fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ70 Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I am liking Billy.Its gonna be my backup player after fb2k now. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosblade Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I really dont see how foobar doesnt fill your requests for an audio player.Foobar With ColumnsUI and maybe one or two plugins (albumart panel) will be everything you need. Takes about 5mins to install all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I would've suggested Billy (just played around with it recently), but you did say this thread wasn't for giving suggestions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00ted Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 WinAmp Lite would be awesome, if I could find a better skin for it. The small/default one is just too tiny and "busy" for my tastes.In a music player, all I'd request, is last.fm support (submit tracks to a last.fm account via post.audioscrobbler.com ), and MAYBE some sort of musicbrainz.org support, to tag tracks before listening.Podcast support (with some sort of BT/µtorrent ♥ interface) would be a plus too.P.S. someone tell me what key combo I used to create that heart....I did it on accident trying to type µ (ALT+320....lol) and missed a letter. or something, and created it haha. It fits the context, so I left it inplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaV Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Lol, just checked out EvilPlayer's guest book and look what I found:Feb 4, 2006 at 06:59:53 David Hulsman (X@X.X)Evilplayer is teh uTorrent for music players!uTorrent ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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