Private Torrent 1 Doesn't work - Private Torrent 2 Does work - why?

[abrogard]

Trying to do a private file transfer to my brother I made a private tracker, following instructions, never done it before.

I made this: http://203.171.115.83:65530/announce and put it in a torrent and loaded the torrent and it reported tracker not working because: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.

I went back to the instructions and saw they also said to make a 'localhost' tracker and so I made it and put it in a torrent and went to load it.

That one looks like this: http://localhost:65530/announce

uTorrent told me that torrent was already in the list, did I want to load trackers from it?

I said yes and it loaded that tracker and within a few seconds that tracker reported as 'working'.

The situation remains like that. One tracker in error, one tracker working.

The only person I could ask to check for me reports that his machine said there was 'no peer'.

Can anyone explain what I've done wrong here, how to fix it?

regards,

ab

p.s. uTorrent reports my port is forwarded correctly and open.

[Switeck]

Private trackers only work well if everyone is on the same LAN.

Otherwise, it's far less painful to just use a public tracker like:

http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce

or

http://tracker.publicbt.com/announce

[paintball9]

If you guys are in the same network, Local Peer Discover will probably make things easier. Just make sure the torrent you create isn't set to private and give him the file. You guys should connect right away, without the need to host a tracker.

If you're not on the same network you can do the same thing with DHT instead. (same setup, just don't set the torrent as private. A tracker is not needed)

[abrogard]

Well thanks for that. So I created a new torrent using your trackers and it seemed okay on my machine.

Then I installed utorrent on my wife's machine (on the same LAN) and fed it that torrent. It seemed happy - said there was 1 seed and 1 peer - but it didn't download a byte.

so I destroyed that torrent and created another which included the http://localhost:65530/announce tracker, just in case that would help.

My machine accepted it okay but my wife's machine gave that same error message bout connection refused by the target machine.

So I deleted that torrent and created one using just your trackers again and tried again and waited more patiently this time.

But nothing moved, not a byte

So I found a torrent on the web for my wife's utorrent installation (which - I should say - I had run the 'setup' on) and fed it to it. Her installation happily started downloading that file immediately.

My own machine wasn't doing anything - it has always worked fine but I currently was only downloading a file that had always been very, very slow and now it was completely stopped - and I'd stopped all uploads because they were getting into gigabytes going up with nothing coming down. So I figured just maybe my installation was crook so I got a torrent from the web and fed it to it and - it started downloading it immediately at quite a healthy speed - 54kB/s and with my wife's doing > 100KB/s that's all our bandwidth taken care of.

So our uTorrents are alright. It must be my Torrent somehow?

[paintball9]

Well the tracker/peer finding part of the torrent is working fine. (the peer is the downloading computer and the seed is the one you made the torrent on). Somewhere along the way something is blocking the actual connection however. Make sure your firewall settings are set to allow utorrent access on both machines and that they are both set to use different ports (could cause problems on a single router managed network)

[abrogard]

Got no firewalls - only Avira antivirus - rely on the router to block bad traffic. And they both have different ports - mine has something in the 65000 range and my wife's took the default it threw up, something around 47 thousand I think.

What is different about a torrent I put up as against all the other torrents my utorrent is working on?

My utorrent, as I said, is functioning fine when I test it with other torrents.

Does your utorrent find the file and report 1 peer 1 seed?

I have destroyed that torrent, too, and this time I've created one 'not private'

it has these trackers:

http://localhost:65530/announce

http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce

http://tracker.publicbt.com/announce

all reported as 'working' by utorrent.

i don't understand the difference between private trackers and non private - but it didn't make any difference anyway.

what a puzzle?

should I reinstall utorrent, maybe?

[Switeck]

Can you post a Process Explorer log, showing what DLLs are loading with utorrent.exe?

(1st link of my signature, Last post, last section.)

...If you've ruled out the software firewall, that leaves possible hostile software (malware).

[abrogard]

Okay... I think I've done it correctly:

Process PID CPU Description Company Name

System Idle Process 0 98.46

Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts

DPCs n/a Deferred Procedure Calls

System 4

smss.exe 1012 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation

csrss.exe 1076 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation

winlogon.exe 1104 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation

services.exe 1148 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation

ati2evxx.exe 1336 ATI External Event Utility EXE Module ATI Technologies Inc.

svchost.exe 1352 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 1400 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 1564 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

pysystat.exe 324 pysystat

wscntfy.exe 3500 Windows Security Center Notification App Microsoft Corporation

ctfmon.exe 3700 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 1636 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 1788 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

spoolsv.exe 260 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation

sched.exe 336 Antivirus Scheduler Avira GmbH

avguard.exe 768 Antivirus On-Access Service Avira GmbH

avshadow.exe 1364 AntiVir shadow copy service Avira GmbH

AppleMobileDeviceService.exe 784 Apple Mobile Device Service Apple Inc.

ApplicationUpdater.exe 800 Application Updater Spigot, Inc.

mDNSResponder.exe 852 Bonjour Service Apple Inc.

FileZilla server.exe 928 FileZilla Server FileZilla Project

inetinfo.exe 1704 Internet Information Services Microsoft Corporation

jqs.exe 1736 Java Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc.

sqlservr.exe 1892 SQL Server Windows NT Microsoft Corporation

prtgwatchdog.exe 644

RoxWatch.exe 968 TODO: <File description> Sonic Solutions

tcpsvcs.exe 1524 TCP/IP Services Application Microsoft Corporation

slserv.exe 2136 Smart Link

sqlbrowser.exe 2160 SQL Browser Service EXE Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 2184 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

CALMAIN.exe 2828 Canon Camera Access Library 8 Canon Inc.

RoxMediaDB.exe 2884 AlbumCore Module Sonic Solutions

alg.exe 2992 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 2932 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation

iPodService.exe 888 iPodService Module (32-bit) Apple Inc.

lsass.exe 1160 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation

ati2evxx.exe 1856 ATI External Event Utility EXE Module ATI Technologies Inc.

explorer.exe 3740 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation

soundman.exe 3856 Realtek Sound Manager Realtek Semiconductor Corp.

opware32.exe 3864 OCR Aware (32-bit) ScanSoft, Inc

issch.exe 3880 InstallShield Update Service Scheduler InstallShield Software Corporation

VM301Snap.exe 3892 Vimicro Vimicro

UnlockerAssistant.exe 3904

Domino.exe 3912

RoxWatchTray.exe 4080 test1 Module

CPSHelpRunner.exe 1672 ROXHelpRunner Module Sonic Solutions

VCDDaemon.exe 2740 Virtual CloneDrive Daemon Elaborate Bytes AG

avgnt.exe 2208 Antivirus System Tray Tool Avira GmbH

StartupMonitor.exe 760

iTunesHelper.exe 2916 iTunesHelper Apple Inc.

winampa.exe 2560 Winamp Agent Nullsoft, Inc.

Rainlendar2.exe 3464 Rainlendar2

AM32.exe 3556

CLI.exe 3440 CLI Application (Command Line Interface) ATI Technologies Inc.

CLI.exe 360 CLI Application (Command Line Interface) ATI Technologies Inc.

WinKey.exe 3620

uTorrent.exe 1416 µTorrent BitTorrent, Inc.

chrome.exe 1628 Google Chrome Google Inc.

chrome.exe 3396 Google Chrome Google Inc.

chrome.exe 2392 Google Chrome Google Inc.

chrome.exe 2764 Google Chrome Google Inc.

chrome.exe 2728 Google Chrome Google Inc.

chrome.exe 272 Google Chrome Google Inc.

chrome.exe 3840 Google Chrome Google Inc.

notepad.exe 2712 Notepad Microsoft Corporation

notepad.exe 2504 Notepad Microsoft Corporation

notepad.exe 2668 Notepad Microsoft Corporation

procexp.exe 632 1.54 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

GoogleCrashHandler.exe 1208 Google Installer Google Inc.

aaCenter.exe 3692

MediaDetector.exe 2068 ServoTool BlazeVideo Company

Process: uTorrent.exe Pid: 1416

Name Description Company Name Version

AcSignCore16.dll AutoCAD component Autodesk, Inc. 17.1.51.0

AcSignIcon.dll AutoCAD component Autodesk, Inc. 17.1.51.0

ACTIVEDS.dll ADs Router Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

adsldpc.dll ADs LDAP Provider C DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ADVAPI32.dll Advanced Windows 32 Base API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

appHelp.dll Application Compatibility Client Library Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ATL.DLL ATL Module for Windows XP (Unicode) Microsoft Corporation 3.5.2284.1

browseui.dll Shell Browser UI Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

CLBCATQ.DLL Microsoft Corporation 2001.12.4414.700

COMCTL32.dll User Experience Controls Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

comdlg32.dll Common Dialogs DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

COMRes.dll Microsoft Corporation 2001.12.4414.700

credui.dll Credential Manager User Interface Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

CRYPT32.dll Crypto API32 Microsoft Corporation 5.131.2600.5512

CRYPTUI.dll Microsoft Trust UI Provider Microsoft Corporation 5.131.2600.5512

CSCDLL.dll Offline Network Agent Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

cscui.dll Client Side Caching UI Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ctype.nls

DnsApi.dll DNS Client API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

dot3api.dll 802.3 Autoconfiguration API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

dot3dlg.dll 802.3 UI Helper Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

DrvTrNTl.dll Wave sound driver for the Total Recorder (Professional Edition), additional dll High Criteria inc. 7.0.0.0

DrvTrNTm.dll Wave sound driver for the Total Recorder (Professional Edition) High Criteria inc. 7.0.0.0

eappcfg.dll Eap Peer Config Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

eappprxy.dll Microsoft EAPHost Peer Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

GDI32.dll GDI Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

hnetcfg.dll Home Networking Configuration Manager Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

IMAGEHLP.dll Windows NT Image Helper Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

IMM32.DLL Windows XP IMM32 API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

index.dat

index.dat

index.dat

Iphlpapi.dll IP Helper API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

kernel32.dll Windows NT BASE API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

locale.nls

LPK.DLL Language Pack Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

mdnsNSP.dll Bonjour Namespace Provider Apple Inc. 2.0.2.0

MFC80ENU.DLL MFC Language Specific Resources Microsoft Corporation 8.0.50727.762

MFC80U.DLL MFCDLL Shared Library - Retail Version Microsoft Corporation 8.0.50727.4053

MMKeyboardHook.dll

MPRAPI.dll Windows NT MP Router Administration DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

MSASN1.dll ASN.1 Runtime APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

MSCTF.dll MSCTF Server DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

msctfime.ime Microsoft Text Frame Work Service IME Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

msi.dll Windows Installer Microsoft Corporation 4.5.6001.22159

mslbui.dll LangageBar Add In Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

msv1_0.dll Microsoft Authentication Package v1.0 Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

MSVCP60.dll Microsoft ® C++ Runtime Library Microsoft Corporation 6.2.3104.0

MSVCP80.dll Microsoft® C++ Runtime Library Microsoft Corporation 8.0.50727.4053

MSVCR80.dll Microsoft® C Runtime Library Microsoft Corporation 8.0.50727.4053

msvcrt.dll Windows NT CRT DLL Microsoft Corporation 7.0.2600.5512

mswsock.dll Microsoft Windows Sockets 2.0 Service Provider Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

msxml3.dll MSXML 3.0 SP9 Microsoft Corporation 8.90.1101.0

msxml3r.dll XML Resources Microsoft Corporation 8.20.8730.1

netapi32.dll Net Win32 API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

netshell.dll Network Connections Shell Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ntdll.dll NT Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

NTMARTA.DLL Windows NT MARTA provider Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ntshrui.dll Shell extensions for sharing Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ole32.dll Microsoft OLE for Windows Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

oleaut32.dll Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

OneX.DLL IEEE 802.1X supplicant library Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

ophook32.dll OCR Aware Hook (32-bit) ScanSoft, Inc 11.0.0.1

rasadhlp.dll Remote Access AutoDial Helper Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

RASAPI32.DLL Remote Access API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

rasman.dll Remote Access Connection Manager Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

RPCRT4.dll Remote Procedure Call Runtime Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

rsaenh.dll Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provider Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5507

rtutils.dll Routing Utilities Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

SAMLIB.dll SAM Library DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

Secur32.dll Security Support Provider Interface Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

sensapi.dll SENS Connectivity API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

serwvdrv.dll Unimodem Serial Wave driver Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.0

SETUPAPI.dll Windows Setup API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

shdocvw.dll Shell Doc Object and Control Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

SHELL32.dll Windows Shell Common Dll Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

shfolder.dll Shell Folder Service Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

SHLWAPI.dll Shell Light-weight Utility Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

sortkey.nls

sorttbls.nls

SSDPAPI.dll SSDP Client API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

SXS.DLL Fusion 2.5 Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

TAPI32.dll Microsoft® Windows Telephony API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

umdmxfrm.dll Unimodem Tranform Module Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.0

unicode.nls

UnlockerHook.dll

upnp.dll Universal Plug and Play API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

urlmon.dll OLE32 Extensions for Win32 Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

USER32.dll Windows XP USER API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

USERENV.dll Userenv Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

USP10.dll Uniscribe Unicode script processor Microsoft Corporation 1.420.2600.5512

uTorrent.exe µTorrent BitTorrent, Inc. 2.0.4.21586

uxtheme.dll Microsoft UxTheme Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

VERSION.dll Version Checking and File Installation Libraries Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

WINHTTP.dll Windows HTTP Services Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

wininet.dll Internet Extensions for Win32 Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.5512

WINMM.dll MCI API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

WINSTA.dll Winstation Library Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

WINTRUST.dll Microsoft Trust Verification APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.131.2600.5512

WLDAP32.dll Win32 LDAP API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

WS2_32.dll Windows Socket 2.0 32-Bit DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

WS2HELP.dll Windows Socket 2.0 Helper for Windows NT Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

wship6.dll IPv6 Helper DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

wshtcpip.dll Windows Sockets Helper DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

wsock32.dll Windows Socket 32-Bit DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

WTSAPI32.dll Windows Terminal Server SDK APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

xpsp2res.dll Service Pack 2 Messages Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.5512

Lovely if there's an answer there.........

[Switeck]

I find these DLLs rather unusual in that they're loading with utorrent.exe:

AcSignCore16.dll AutoCAD component Autodesk, Inc. 17.1.51.0

AcSignIcon.dll AutoCAD component Autodesk, Inc. 17.1.51.0

ctype.nls

DrvTrNTl.dll Wave sound driver for the Total Recorder (Professional Edition), additional dll High Criteria inc. 7.0.0.0

DrvTrNTm.dll Wave sound driver for the Total Recorder (Professional Edition) High Criteria inc. 7.0.0.0

ophook32.dll OCR Aware Hook (32-bit) ScanSoft, Inc 11.0.0.1

UnlockerHook.dll

Your wife's computer lack most or all of those?

[abrogard]

They load just because utorrent loads? You can tell that from that list?

I'll check my wife's machine. I didn't put that software there and run it yet... I'll get back as soon as I can... thank you for your help...

I imagine she won't have them. I recognise the software in each case and she doesn't have it.

[DreadWingKnight]

Process explorer shows a list of dlls that have loaded or injected into a given process, with those in the list for the utorrent.exe process, we can't help but suspect the associated programs (because none of those are required for uTorrent to operate)

[abrogard]

well though I recognise them none of them should be running normally and i don't really see why any of them should be running in the background...... perhaps I should look to uninstalling them or stopping those processes in task manager and then try utorrent?

[GTHK]

Autodesk and scansoft are primary targets.

[abrogard]

Well I'll look for them and root them out if I can. scansoft is part of omnipage which I don't need anymore, I find free ocr is better than my version of it. And autodesk I can do without at least while I check this out.

You mean they are loading when utorrent loads? they're not already loaded? is this normal behaviour for such apps? are they running as services or something and they check each app I load to see if it needs scanning or something? (what a drawing package would be looking for I'm damned if I know)

Anyway, I'll get them out.

and if I get a chance today I'll create this torrent on my wife's machine and see if can be accessed from there, uploaded from there. turn the situation around.

thanks for your help, guys...

p.s. A bit of an update, later edit:

I tried it on my wife's machine. Build a torrent there.

Her machine is on the same LAN. It only has two ethernet wired machines on it, and two more wireless connected machines. The wireless router is not a modem and is configured not to do any dchp, it has no control at all, is merely a switch now - all config is through the adsl modem/router.

This is what I did, following different instructions again found on the web:

. I enabled tracker at bt.enable_tracker in her utorrent

. I enabled web UI and supplied a username and password

. I checked 'alternative listening port' and provided a number

I forwarded that port on the router.

. I made up an URL for the tracker using her local IP (192.x.x.x - same range as the router)

. I made the torrent and clicked on it to get it into her utorrent install.

. It went in there and said 'downloading' but nothing happened. The amount 'done' was zero. And if I remember right it showed no seeds, no peers.

When I first put my torrent into my machine I remember it immediately showed 1 seed, 1 peer and 100% loaded. I don't undeerstand any of that.

I went to my machine and got her torrent file and pointed my machine to it.

My utorrent said the file already existed did I want to load the trackers from it.

I said 'yes'. the trackers loaded.

The file started UPLOADING from my machine!

I dashed over to her machine to see what was happening and sure enough it was downloading there.

So now it exists on both machines. How it moves from my machine to hers with trackers pointing to her machine I don't know. I'm obviously very, very ignorant as to how this software works.

If you care to check if it is seeable from the outside world now here's the current tracker list:

http://192.168.1.102:62000/announce

http://localhost:65530/announce

http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce

http://tracker.publicbt.com/announce

and the top two, of course, are from my wife's machine.

those instructions I followed for making a torrent also said 'never enter a private tracker URL in the Tracker's List - you may get tagged for cheating.'

I don't know what this means and I don't want to 'get tagged for cheating' - do you know what it is about?

p.p.s. another edit: Sorry, my mistake, you haven't got the torrent, have you, so you can't check from that end. ah well. I see that three of the trackers I listed have come up in a different colour in the forum posts, but the localhost hasn't. Does that mean they're recognised as something - does it mean they are causing something (bad?) to happen?

[Switeck]

. I made up an URL for the tracker using her local IP (168.x.x.x - same range as the router)

...

If you care to check if it is seeable from the outside world now here's the current tracker list:

http://192.168.1.102:62000/announce

http://localhost:65530/announce

http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce

http://tracker.publicbt.com/announce

and the top two, of course, are from my wife's machine.

A problem...you mentioned above a very strange local IP range -- 168.x.x.x, yet the announce uses 192.x.x.x

Is this a typo or some strange routing I don't understand?

"I don't know what this means and I don't want to 'get tagged for cheating' - do you know what it is about?"

If you were a member of a private tracker, you are required to maintain a high upload-to-download ratio. Posting "fake" torrents to such a website is grounds for instant banning, which your test torrents could easily be mistaken for!

"Sorry, my mistake, you haven't got the torrent, have you, so you can't check from that end."

If you supplied a magnet link posted here at the forum OR uploaded the .torrent file to a place like rapidshare.com that shouldn't be a problem.

"I see that three of the trackers I listed have come up in a different colour in the forum posts, but the localhost hasn't."

Apparently localhost one isn't treated as a standard web shortcut URL link like the other 3 are. Don't worry about it.

Do the trackers window/tab in uTorrent report the trackers as updating correctly?

Does uTorrent's Logger window/tab show connection attempts/failures? (Right-click in that window and enable *EVERYTHING* but the verbose stuff!)

[abrogard]

Sorry, yes, that was a typo. I've edited it and changed it.

The trackers are updated correctly.

I've enabled all the logging except verbose.

The logging window shows connection attempts/failures alright - but I guess you meant for 'bush mechanic', did you? I haven't checked that yet.

How? If I delete the Torrent and data on my wife's machine I suppose that I can load the torrent in there again and it'll successfully upload from my machine again - will that be informative data, seeing the log of that event?

Or I can delete everything everywhere and go back to my machine and the torrent I made for it - identical to hers, I suppose, but with different trackers - and try again to get the file - hopefully with someone on the net trying to get it ( the wife's machine being inside the LAN isn't the same kind of test, is it? ) and look at the log of it..... is that more what you've got in mind?

I'm happy to upload the .torrent but which one? the 'successful' one from my wife's machine? Or the (it seems) failed one on my machine? Are they in fact identical but just containing different trackers? In that case can they be edited to add trackers? Or do they contain different stuff owing to the different settings on the machines when creating them?

I could upload both and rename them. I believe names don't matter, right? uTorrent reads the contents and then tells you that you've already got that file listed 'do you want to load the trackers?' - is that right?

I'll assume it is and I'll upload both to rapidshare.com

I don't know what the 'magnet link' method is.

thanks again for your help.... my mate reckons forget it but I reckon there's something wrong either in my machine or in uTorrent on my machine and it needs sorting out....

I'll get onto it all as soon as I can... little kids permitting...... but I think it is not so urgent, perhaps, you're up and about at different times to myself I think..... I'm at GMT + 9

Here we go: two .torrent files uploaded:

http://rapidshare.com/files/417747471/Bush_Mechanics_Series_1_Episode_2.mp4.torrent

MD5: AA7BCE858746B758DE5C8D1FD8FD5CE7

http://rapidshare.com/files/417747875/WifesBush_Mechanics_Series_1_Episode_2.mp4.torrent (MD5: E86012A5DB5051A13B10F8F080B1F757)

[Switeck]

I started the first torrent. Really if they're only differing by trackers I can add the extra one.

Really no point in adding localhost OR 192.168.x.x, as those ONLY exist inside a computer or LAN.

But it seems you've stopped the torrent now, as the trackers report only my ip on them.

[abrogard]

I had the computer switched off. I decided to reboot everything, modem/router, wireless router and pc. My utorrent was supposed to be using port 65535 but my modem/router showed utorrent as port forwarded on 65530.

So I tried to change the modem to 65535 and it wouldn't let me because it claimed that port was already assigned! But no such assignment showed in the list.

Perhaps my wife's utorrent was set up to use 65530 and automatic port forwarding has perhaps done that - I'm not sure.

Anyway, it seems to be a bit of a mess.

I don't know if they are only differing by trackers. I'd suppose they are but I'm ignorant.

They'd contain the location of the original file, I guess, in the first instance, wouldn't they?

After all this screwing around - deleting torrents to start again - I've now got my utorrent showing no part of the (bush mechanic) file yet downloaded, no peers, 2 seeds - 1 of which it claims to be connected to, which would be itself, and it is doing nothing, downloading at zero knots.

You can add a tracker on your utorrent 'usage' of the torrent, can't you, I did that - but there's no way you can add a tracker into the torrent file itself is there?

I'll leave my machine on for the next five hours or so - we generally don't leave them on all night if they're not doing anything......

p.s. I stopped everything except bush mechanic. And copied a bit of the log for you... I can see for myself there's a port hassle..........

[2010-09-08 18:30:01] *** Starting Diagnostic thread ***

[2010-09-08 18:30:01] IPv6 is installed

[2010-09-08 18:30:02] 68.35.194.175:65501 [uTP](Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Connecting: source: C

[2010-09-08 18:30:02] 68.35.194.175:65501(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Connecting: source: C

[2010-09-08 18:30:02] UPnP: ERROR mapping TCP port 65535 -> 192.168.1.101:65535. Deleting mapping and trying again: (718) The port mapping entry specified conflicts with a mapping assigned previously to another client

[2010-09-08 18:30:02] UPnP: ERROR removing TCP port 65535: (714) The specified value does not exist in the array

[2010-09-08 18:30:02] UPnP: ERROR mapping TCP port 65535 -> 192.168.1.101:65535: (718) The port mapping entry specified conflicts with a mapping assigned previously to another client

[2010-09-08 18:30:03] UPnP: ERROR mapping TCP port 65535 -> 192.168.1.101:65535. Deleting mapping and trying again: (718) The port mapping entry specified conflicts with a mapping assigned previously to another client

[2010-09-08 18:30:04] UPnP: ERROR removing TCP port 65535: (714) The specified value does not exist in the array

[2010-09-08 18:30:04] UPnP: ERROR mapping TCP port 65535 -> 192.168.1.101:65535: (718) The port mapping entry specified conflicts with a mapping assigned previously to another client

[2010-09-08 18:30:05] 68.35.194.175:65501(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): [µTorrent/2.0.4.0 (0.0)]: Encrypted handshake completed

[2010-09-08 18:30:06] 68.35.194.175:65501(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): [µTorrent 2.0.4 (0.0)]: Disconnect: Connection closed

[2010-09-08 18:30:06] 68.35.194.175:65501 [uTP](Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): [µTorrent/2.0.4.0 (0.0)]: Encrypted handshake completed

[2010-09-08 18:30:12] NAT-PMP: Unable to map port with NAT-PMP.

[2010-09-08 18:30:13] Incoming connection from 90.17.179.146:62623

[2010-09-08 18:30:14] 90.17.179.146:62623: Disconnect: No such torrent: DD34AE4EA4D7DBEBFFE84C5B8650F3D29BB6BF27

[2010-09-08 18:30:15] Incoming connection from 85.246.71.108:3344

[2010-09-08 18:30:15] 203.171.115.83:65535 [uTP](Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Connecting: source: T

[2010-09-08 18:30:15] 203.171.115.83:65535(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Connecting: source: T

[2010-09-08 18:30:16] 203.171.115.83:65535(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Disconnect: Peer error: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.

[2010-09-08 18:30:24] 203.171.115.83:65535 [uTP](Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Disconnect: Peer error: offline (timed out)

[2010-09-08 18:30:26] 85.246.71.108:3344: Disconnect: No such torrent: DD34AE4EA4D7DBEBFFE84C5B8650F3D29BB6BF27

[2010-09-08 18:30:28] Incoming connection from 173.51.230.102:38241

[2010-09-08 18:30:29] 173.51.230.102:38241 [uTP]: Disconnect: Peer error: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

[2010-09-08 18:30:31] Incoming connection from 189.18.225.227:20456

[2010-09-08 18:30:31] 189.18.225.227:20456 [uTP]: Disconnect: Peer error: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

[2010-09-08 18:30:31] Incoming connection from 173.51.230.102:38241

[2010-09-08 18:30:34] Incoming connection from 189.18.225.227:20456

[2010-09-08 18:30:34] Incoming connection from 79.41.236.79:55553

[2010-09-08 18:30:34] Incoming connection from 174.97.193.227:56374

[2010-09-08 18:30:34] Incoming connection from 189.18.225.227:26017

[2010-09-08 18:30:34] 174.97.193.227:56374 [uTP]: Disconnect: Peer error: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

[2010-09-08 18:30:34] 79.41.236.79:55553 [uTP]: Disconnect: Peer error: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

[2010-09-08 18:30:36] Incoming connection from 90.17.179.146:40814

[2010-09-08 18:30:36] 90.17.179.146:40814 [uTP]: Disconnect: Peer error: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

[2010-09-08 18:30:37] Incoming connection from 174.97.193.227:56374

[2010-09-08 18:30:38] 189.18.225.227:26017: Disconnect: No such torrent: DD34AE4EA4D7DBEBFFE84C5B8650F3D29BB6BF27

[2010-09-08 18:30:39] Incoming connection from 90.17.179.146:40814

[2010-09-08 18:31:01] 173.51.230.102:38241 [uTP]: Disconnect: Peer error: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

[2010-09-08 18:31:02] 203.171.115.83:65535(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Connecting: source: TX

[2010-09-08 18:31:03] 189.18.225.227:20456 [uTP]: Disconnect: Timed out

[2010-09-08 18:31:03] 203.171.115.83:65535(Bush Mechanics Series 1 Episode 2.mp4): Disconnect: Peer error: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.

[2010-09-08 18:31:04] Incoming connection from 173.51.230.102:4915

[2010-09-08 18:31:05] 173.51.230.102:4915: Disconnect: No such torrent: DD34AE4EA4D7DBEBFFE84C5B8650F3D29BB6BF27

[2010-09-08 18:31:06] 174.97.193.227:56374 [uTP]: Disconnect: Timed out

[2010-09-08 18:31:08] 90.17.179.146:40814 [uTP]: Disconnect: Timed out

I don't really know what to do next. Reinstall utorrent?

[Switeck]

Quit trying to use port 65535 or even 65530. Choose a different port between 50000 and 60000 and use that.

UPnP apparently can't forward correctly, so even your wife's computer can't connect to yours.

Disable UPnP and NAT-PMP and manually forward the router instead.

"I don't know if they are only differing by trackers. I'd suppose they are but I'm ignorant."

The missing trackers are worthless. LAN ips and localhost cannot be used as remote tracker addresses. localhost will only work on the same computer and LAN ips will only work for other computers on the same LAN.