BloodStaindHurricane Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Mugros - There is no iexplorer thread when Maxthon is running. I've never seen it, and am not seeing it now. Just Maxthon. Ultima - Oh, I see now. Coming from FF, I guess that does feel like a weight has been lifted:) As for the security issues, I feel just as safe w/ Maxthon as I do w/ any other browser. Totally agree w/ silverfire's last post. I used Maxthon for about 2 yrs before going to Opera, and never had any security issues that could put Maxthon/IE at fault. I play it safe, and I always ignore this argument when used by others against browsers in a debate. However, I preach it when recommending browsers to ppl that arent experienced on a pc. If one is experienced and has a little common sense, IE is just as safe as any other browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 I go with the security argument from first hand experience, not because everyone else says so =PHeh, just for kicks, I installed Spybot just now to check my computer... clean. I couldn't say that when I was using Maxthon, even though I tried to be as safe as possible (you can tell from my whitelisting content in Opera how careful I try to be). I don't remember how critical the spywares were (and I doubt they were very much so, otherwise I'd remember more clearly), but something showed up on the Spybot scan back when I still used IE/Maxthon, which isn't the case right now with Opera.I dunno, since you can keep things clean, by all means, use it. Apparently, I can't trust myself enough (since I couldn't keep clean with Maxthon), so I'll just use Opera to help me ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Regardless of which browser you use, having the proper preventative measures is the single most important step in preventing disastrous malware infections. Personally, I use a combination of the following to achieve five layers of protection:"Common" sense* - Self-explanatory and the most important one. Without it, the other measures might not be able to prevent it all due to the sheer volume of incoming threats resulting from user stupidity. - Turning off JavaScript before visiting questionable sites, turning on Java only when needed, and staying away from sites that would bomb your browser. The name is a misnomer since most people really don't have any of this.Hardware firewall/router - Helps prevent the use of exploits on unforwarded ports. The same behavior that angers p2p users who don't know how to forward ports is the same behavior that keeps me safe.avast! Antivirus - The built-in internal proxy at 127.0.0.1:12080 scans port 80 traffic and any traffic explicitly routed through it for viruses/malware and blocks them before they ever hit a browser-accessible portion of the hard disk.SpywareBlaster - Prevents some malware from being able to install itself.Windows Defender (fmr. called Microsoft Antispyware) actively monitors registry changes and other potential early signs of a malware infection, though I've never given it the chance to actually find something.There ARE other safety measures in place, but they don't exactly count as active protection. I've had this combination in place with frequent updates, and it's how I've never gotten viruses or spyware in the past 9+ months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 i haven't had a virus for over an year now..i check my system every 2-3 months for viruses and spyware (i have no antivirus or antispyware program except when i scan my system)all i use is the latest firefox and as silverfire said common sense peope are stupid, that's why they get fucked up.. an intelligent person cannot expect a 40kb exe to be a movie right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Oh really?How about 64KB?http://www.scene.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 what? where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 farb-rausch foreverfr-08 will live in infamy can't forget the day I saw it, back on my old crappy pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha-Toxic Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 I remember those, they are outstanding!!!BTW, while trying to write µ in linux, I discovered another hidden feature in Opera. If you write the hex code of the desired Unicode char ("b5" for µ), mark it and press ALT+X it replaces it with the char. This browser just doesn't stop amazing me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maku8ex Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Firefox 1.0.7 is fair game for hackers since exploits appear frequently for Firefox as well as any other browser.hey any old browser is prone to hacker attacks....but till now FF 1.0.7 has been kind to me ( & that combined with my firewall...I rarely get attacks )"Common" sense* - Self-explanatory and the most important one. Without it, the other measures might not be able to prevent it all due to the sheer volume of incoming threats resulting from user stupidity.& YES I do use common sense...I rarely ( or never ) surf all those shitty serial/warez sites.....they're loaded with all kinds of malware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 @Alpha-Toxic: Whoa nice find O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maku8ex Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 & FF 1.5.0.1 memory management is not that much different from that of FF 1.0.7...if u want better peroformance....then install the fasterfox extension..http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Fasterfox is banned on a lot of sites, including (I believe) utorrent.com. It sucks, and stresses servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badsecurityforum Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Fasterfox only improves page loading by tweaking some setting. But FF1.5 has some improvements in memory management, also. Fasterfox won't fix these.Only the prefetch in Fasterfox is "banned" on some sites, but there is a easy way to prevent this. I can surf just fine with Fasterfox, but i am using an optimized setting without prefetch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hmm I do believe I've found a "µBrowser":http://www.offbyone.comIt's 1.5MB, and 324KB after using PECompact2, and is completely self-contained (in other words, it doesn't use IE). It supports tabs as well.My only complaint is the lack of an address bar. You have to hit CTRL+W to open up the "Open URL" dialog box. But that isn't too hard to do, I suppose.EDIT: Unfortunately it also doesn't seem to render many pages correctly, including utorrent.com. It might be handy to keep on a thumbdrive to work on spyware-infested machines, however. I currently use Portable Firefox to do that, which takes up a good chunk of space.For more µTorrent-sized apps, visit www.tinyapps.org-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Ares, why that browser doesn't render so many pages and on some doesn't work so well, is because of this =Off By One Browser Limitations * No JavaScript support (so no pop-up ad windows). * No applet, plug-in or Flash support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 @Boo: True, but it must be a little more than that, as I use NoScript with Firefox which disables Javascript (and flash, etc) on every website I use until I enable it. And www.utorrent.com looks fine with it disabled.Regardless, it's a keeper for emergency thumbdrive use, IMHO.-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Ares: skimming over the page I saw that they only support HTML 3.2...maybe that's why websites look weird... :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 It is. I tried Off By One a long time ago, and it was horrible. The closest you'll get to that µBrowser you're looking for is probably Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 or portable firefox? i've never tried it.. maybe i'm terribly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 The problem with that is that its resource usage isn't so... µ ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 well, it's firefox after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Yeah, I use PortableFirefox a lot from my thumbdrive. But yeah, I really wish I could find a browser contained in a single EXE with a small memory footprint. And with tabs. I've grown accustomed to those... lol-Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha-Toxic Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Or what about a portable Opera?http://www.opera-usb.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winMX_67 Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Opera 9 TP2! I havent tried maxthon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameSky Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 My FF will used up to 100MB within 10 mins with 3-5 tabs opened....Tried Opera...uh...well, not really familiar with the GUI...I.E...yeah....bugs >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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