notapirate Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 When a torrent reaches the seeding goal before the download is complete, when the download finishes, the torrent will seed indefinitely far past the set seeding goal. This is not a major problem, but for those of us who must watch our bandwidth consumption, it can be annoying to see I'm close to my transfer cap because something seeded to a 50:1 ratio instead of 2:1. If it would be possible, it would be nice if when a torrent reaches the minimum seeding ratio set by the user before the download is complete, and they have the option enabled to reduce upload bandwidth to 0 when the seeding goal is reached, that when such a download completes it will stop seeding on completion. Either that, or allow the user to reduce the upload bandwith based on the seeding goad regardless of the download status. Either way would be groovy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 You can have it stop seeding when it hits the seeding goal (take a look at the Limit the upload rate to option), but this does not apply while downloading. We have no plans of adding such a feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vv Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 And why not? What is the reason behind that?If I have seeding goal 150%, then why I have to seed sometimes 350% instead? It's waste of bandwidth, that I'd prefer to allocate to another torrents..I think some trackers try to enforce on us some unreasonable expectations of what we should and should not do... We need protection against that push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 If I have my seeding goal set at 200%, and I have the option enabled to limit the upload rate when a torrent reaches it's seeding goal, the option to reduce the upload rate fails if the volume of the file is shared twice before it finishes downloading. How is that not a bug, unless you use a strict definition of "seeding goal," (where you're not "seeding" until you're completed the download)?And even with such a strict definition, once the file is completely downloaded, and again twice the volume of the file is uploaded to peers, the torrent will still continue to seed at the global or user set upload limit instead of the seeding goal limit. Why is it better this way, please tell me =(Edit: To be fair, this is kind of a rare occurrence, except with really new and popular torrents, but you've all made it so easy to set it and forget it....I sometimes do and it's crappy to come back after two days to realize you uploaded 60 - 100 gb more than you expected, especially at the end of the month when I may be near my 250 gb transfer cap from my isp. Luckily they haven't gotten pissed at me yet, but I've been accidentally wayyyy closer than I intended to get. (btw I do really like the global transfer cap feature, it's legit, but I kind of wish I could set to a calendar as well as past x days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 You're not seeding until it's 100% complete. You aren't seeding while downloading.And if you want it to STOP seeding, you need to turn on "limit the upload rate to". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have the limit set to 0, but if I pass the goal before I'm done downloading, as sometimes happens, it the limit never kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 You're not seeding until it's 100% complete. You aren't seeding while downloading.And if you want it to STOP seeding, you need to turn on "limit the upload rate to".Why does uploading while downloading affect the seeding ratio, or is it somehow separate and I'm misunderstanding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have the limit set to 0, but if I pass the goal before I'm done downloading, as sometimes happens, it the limit never kicks in.Ah, this post clarifies the problem you're seeing.So the limit works, except when it goes past that seeding goal BEFORE the torrent finishes.Could you reproduce this on 26773? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I will most certainly try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Nice, the torrent switched to complete (not seeding) as soon as the download finished. I will keep putting it to the test though =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Now I'm getting disk overloaded 100% again though like in prev update unless i increase cache manually. Is there another option other than this to solve the problem? I set it to 128 mb, and it seems fine now, though utorrent swelled up to match the larger cache, ~130mb in system memory, which is acceptable to me currently, but probably unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 "seemed" was the operative word, since after running for a while the disk overload message came back and torrents ceased downloading. I've only had the latest version for a few hours now, and I was asleep most of them, but I've gotta say I'm not loving it. I accidentally downloaded some stuff to the wrong, place, tried to use utorrent to move it....bad idea, it said "moving file" for the next hour, and then even though I increased my cache to 512 mb to avoid the disk overload error much earlier, I started getting it again despite minimal downloading at that moment. OK, pause everything, close and restart utorrent. At this point I said "screw it, I'll just delete them and redownload them to where I want, the download too 5 min, this has been over an hour, no brainer"....but after remove/deleting .torrent + data, when i tried to add the torrents again "The torrent you are trying to add matches a torrent that is currently being deleted, please wait to add it again." If you have any ideas I'll try to keep using this build, but I still have my rollback ready =PEdit: It did eventually let me add those torrents I deleted after a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notapirate Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Could it be that the seeding did not stop because of the "forced" downloading from streaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 If a torrent is force started, it will always ignore seeding goal and any queue limits you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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