DeathStalker Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 DWK, a lot of car accidents stem from drivers stupidity. That's why car manufacturers install air-bags, seat belts, ABS's etc. And it's not always user stupidity because in many cases, the trackers are already in the torrents. Designers have to design stable products for everyone (including drivers, pedestrians, users, trackers) and I don't see a reason to blame the usersYes, Zarggg, agreed (and I have been guilty of it, as I'm sure many of us have), but mcaspi put it best - "DWK, a lot of car accidents stem from drivers stupidity. That's why car manufacturers install air-bags, seat belts, ABS's etc. And it's not always user stupidity because in many cases, the trackers are already in the torrents. Designers have to design stable products for everyone (including drivers, pedestrians, users, trackers) and I don't see a reason to blame the users" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 many users keep adding HTTP addressesRight' date=' like an exclude/black list (ipfilter-like)... But, I guess processing power is a consideration too.[/quote'] That's why car manufacturers install air-bags.The simple truth is' date=' that those public trackers' admins, that now want to operate with UDP only, just want to save themselves the hassle of filtering the legacy TCP traffic out (by older torrents/users), and do it in the clients... That looks like a working air-bag, that will eliminate most TCP traffic to those trackers:In the short term, we could add a filter in uTorrent that turns certain hostname into udp:// if they aren't already. I take it this is for openbittorrent and publicbt. Do you know of any other trackers that suffer from this problem?or later on:actually, I like probing for UDP tracker supports a lot better than the DNS idea. It seems simpler, more secure and more platform independent support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarggg Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 @DeathStalker: I think you messed up the quote. I didn't write those words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathStalker Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 @Zarggg - yes, strange, I selected the "Quick Quote" from your response; I have no idea why it attributed that quote to you and did not quote your statement instead - as you can see, I manually quoted mcaspi. Not something that I did, but strange nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathStalker Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 @Zarggg - yes, strange, I selected the "Quick Quote" from your response; I have no idea why it attributed that quote to you and did not quote your statement instead - as you can see, I manually quoted mcaspi. Not something that I did, but strange nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 After looking at the above two posts of yours I can definitely agree with 'strange' .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathStalker Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 @rafi - blasted Chrome kept crashing on me when I submitted for some reason lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsoran Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 A lot of the problem stems from user stupidityDWK' date=' a lot of car accidents stem from drivers stupidity. That's why car manufacturers install air-bags, seat belts, ABS's etc. And it's not always user stupidity because in many cases, the trackers are already in the torrents. Designers have to design stable products for everyone (including drivers, pedestrians, users, trackers) and I don't see a reason to blame the users.[/quote']Safety mechs don't make users less stupid, just less prone to dicking up the works.The simple truth is, that those public trackers' admins, that now want to operate with UDP only, just want to save themselves the hassle of filtering the legacy TCP traffic out (by older torrents/users), and do it in the clients...Filtering isn't free, bandwidth and CPU are still consumed, and that hits the wallet as well.actually, I like probing for UDP tracker supports a lot better than the DNS idea. It seems simpler, more secure and more platform independent support.Ugly!Better error handling on the client side would be a big step forward on reduction of traffic. There are several cases where the retry timer shoulld not be set and the tracker disabled:1. The tracker does not exist (http error 404?). It's been pointed out to me on bt.org that 404's may be generated by middlemen. Still' date=' I think a higher timeout or not even bothering would be appropriate, especially if [i']plenty of other trackers are functional.Beating off a dead horse the original multitracker spec was to (basically) hit up only one tracker at a time, but the "solution" to a large chunk of peers potentially being crap? Hit a tracker in every tier, no matter how many tiers exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlat4n Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 "Moving to the disk (512)" during hours and nothing.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 A new 3.2 is up to replace certain trackers' HTTP URLs with UDP as a quick fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 A new 3.2 is up to replace certain trackers' HTTP URLs with UDP as a quick fix.- Change: add tracker.ccc.de as a default tracker ==> what is a "default tracker" ?http://tracker.ccc.de.hostlogr.com/ --> and on a "Chaos Computer Club" host ?... oh, thread's topic needs changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osm0sis Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 -- 2012-07-30: Version 3.2 (build 27636)- Feature: disallow http connections to tracker.openbittorrent.com and tracker.publicbt.comInteresting. Why this change? Especially considering neither of these trackers has worked at all for me (http or udp) for the last week or so.. Roughly since Demonoid went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why this change?It is back ported from 3.2.1 . I guess they've "caved in" to this trackers' strike... http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-trackers-cease-strike-after-protocol-improvement-120729/Too bad it is a *patch* solution and not one that will hold water when the next tracker will change to udp only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryrynz Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 from the page rafi linked.uTorrent misreports stats to trackers and gets complained about a LOT.Does this comment hold any water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Nope. That's the canned response for private trackers banning uTorrent and hasn't had any proof to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beasly Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 A ban is a ban no matter how you slice it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 A baseless reason is a baseless reason no matter how you try to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beasly Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Baseless maybe, but it's still a ban! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarggg Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Solution: Don't use private sites whose admins make decisions not based on reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isepiq Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 µTorrent Stable (3.2 build 27568)I keep having to disable then re-enable DHT. Not a problem in the past???W7 x64 UltimateIMHO isepiq:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avabaska Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 What about speed limit? As in prev. ver. if I set limit (for example - upload) for 7000 kb/s, my U speed can drop to ~3,5 mbyte/s. As soon as I will remove limit, I can see up to 8+ mbyte/s :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnukyguy Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 in ui settings--> system tray, if "always activate when clicked" is disabled, sometimes utorrent does not open when clicking the tray icon !please fix this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryrynz Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Gotta ask. Why do I see updates on the web for new versions of uTorrent before new versions are posted here? If there's time to upload a new build, why no time to update a thread?BTW guys uTorrent 3.2 build 27708 stable is out, although not officially, I'd rather wait to see a change log first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaresoft Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I notice that the download page for stable/beta dates have changed, but where is change logs?..and Beta? :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aranjedeath Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 So can one of the mods/admins explain the changes to dht regarding magnet links? It seems like now (vs 3.1.3) uTorrent will force dht on (and on for new torrents) if you add a magnet-linked torrent. Am I understanding that correctly? That's a global settings change, correct?I ask because I've used magnet links sometimes, but having dht turned on destroys my router (It's one from the ISP, does router/modem and sucks pretty hard. Supports ipv6 though. Go figure.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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