HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 System: Windows 8 64bituTorrent version: Last Stable (3.3 29625)Every time I start downloading something big, or many small files (4-6Gb each), uTorrents goes in Disk Overload 100% and stops downloading anything (actually it does not stop completely, but the download speed becomes so slow that It is almost irrelevant). The only thing I can do when uTorrent does this is restart it and hope that It does not do it again.The problems becomes impossible to handle for very big files (60-100Gb+). In that case, It is impossible to me to download anything. (Even restarting uTorrent, it is always stuck on Disk Overload) I have tried EVERYTHING. Changing cache size, disabling cache, disabling-enabling pre-allocation, disabling my Internet Security, reinstalling uTorrent, using another disk (I have 6 HDDs, it does NOT matter which one I'm downloading to), using another operating system (I tried with Windows 7 32bit), using another version of uTorrent (I tried all the 3.3 releases, 3.2.3 and even 2.2.1!). The problem is ALWAYS the same.What can I do?!Update: When uTorrent goes in Disk Overload 100% it stops doing anything, not only downloading. Is it not really pre-allocating files because there is no disk activity what so ever going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindahan Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Don't be too critical. They'll delete your posts, close your thread, and generally act like the failures they obviously are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Don't be too critical. They'll delete your posts, close your thread, and generally act like the failures they obviously are.I wrote nothing "too critical", I'm only describing what happens when I try to download something in uTorrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I have tried EVERYTHING.... (I tried all the 3.3 releases, 3.2.3 and even 2.2.1!). The problem is ALWAYS the same.What can I do?!Not EVERYTHING...0. Try using a SATA drive, not a USB one1. Backup your settings (*.dat)2a. Stop all downloads and exit utorrent2b. Replace your exe with the latest good 3.3.1 beta (@ my sig)3. Replace your settings.dat with mine (@my sig/tips)4. Adjust the upload limit to ~90% of your max sustainable connection *UPLOAD* rate, as well as your pref.->directories settings5. Test with this test torrent, see that you can get to your max connection rate... http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent6. Try yours again7. Report back here... and good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Don't be too critical. They'll delete your posts, close your thread, and generally act like the failures they obviously are.Says the one who only makes abusive accusations without information in the posts to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I have tried EVERYTHING.... (I tried all the 3.3 releases' date=' 3.2.3 and even 2.2.1!). The problem is ALWAYS the same.What can I do?![/quote']Not EVERYTHING...0. Try using a SATA drive, not a USB one1. Backup your settings (*.dat)2a. Stop all downloads and exit utorrent2b. Replace your exe with the latest good 3.3.1 beta (@ my sig)3. Replace your settings.dat with mine (@my sig/tips)4. Adjust the upload limit to ~90% of your max sustainable connection *UPLOAD* rate, as well as your pref.->directories settings5. Test with this test torrent, see that you can get to your max connection rate... http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent6. Try yours again7. Report back here... and good luck Of course, I tested using both internal and external HDDs.I'm testing your settings now in uTorrent beta, they don't seem to make much of a difference: Disk overloaded 100% as soon as I added a 150Gb torrent, after having downloaded only 80Mb of that torrent. After going in Disk Overloaded, uTorrent continues downloading but only at 1Kb/s. The odd this is that even if I pause or stop all torrents, the Disk where I'm downloading seem stuck on 100% active time. Even if I close uTorrent. (No, the disk is fine, it's not failing. How can I know it? I tested it using 6 different HDDs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What was the result of Step #5?Even if I close uTorrent. If utorrent process is not listed in Task Manager, go find the root cause to your issues elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I appreciate that you are trying to help me. But I'm not stupid. Of course it is in task manager, and I'll tell you more: most of the time it stays in task manager even if I tell it to kill the damned process multiple times. Most of the times I have to log-out or restart the computer to kill it.Anyway, I found something that seem to solve the problem, or at least mitigate it by a lot. If I set "diskio.sparse.files" in Advanced to True, the Disk Overload problem seems to disappear. I have tested this with your options, and uTorrent beta- diskio.sparse.files = false (default): I add a 150Gb torrent -> uTorrent keeps going in disk overload and virtually stops all downloading, most of the times I am unable to stop uTorrent from whatever is doing with my disk. (surely is not allocating, nor downloading) Sometimes I can kill the process in Task Manager, sometimes I have to restart/log-out.- diskio.sparse.files = true: I add a 150Gb torrent -> uTorrent downloads normally at full speed. No disk overload for 40 minutes now. Now my question is: is this option a problem? I have read somewhere that It causes a lot of fragmentation. Is it true? Can I leave it on without worries? (Windows 8 defragmentation runs once a week anyway...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Good. I guess we'll have to ask the devs about fragmentation. I also read it was best left false... Maybe Win8 has no issues with it any more.What is your "full speed" and what was it with your old settings+3.3?PS: No, I don't think you are stupid... and I have no telepathic powers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 My full speed is near to 100Mbit/s down. I tested with your settings, as well as mine. I tested with 3.3.1 beta and I'll soon test again with 3.3.0 stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Will be interesting to also compare to your old settings + parse_files - true with both 3.3 and 3.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Will be interesting to also compare to your old settings + parse_files - true with both 3.3 and 3.3.1 With my settings (which are the default settings with sparse files enabled, pre-allocation enabled , write out untouched blocks every 2 minutes disabled, encryption enabled, cache 128MB, max active download 10, max active torrents 250, global maximum number of connection 500, max number of connected peers per torrent 100, upload slots 8) in both 3.3.1 and 3.3, disk overload seems disappeared. The only thing that I noticed is that 3.3.1 seems to download faster than 3.3, Is that possible? (same settings, and same torrents) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Most of the above settings are in my settings as well (except sparse_files), so I guess that for very large files it can help. I guess there is some kind of discrapancy as well, sine the help file says:"This option cannot be used in conjunction with pre-allocate all files. If both options are enabled simultaneously, pre-allocation will take precedence. "Which means - it is in theory - unused, or that there is a bug... 3.3.1 seems to download faster than 3.3There where quite a few issues that were fixed, such as the speed limiters. So I guess - yes, it should be a bit faster... especially with my settings ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 sparse files most be effective with pre-allocation enabled. I will try to disable pre-allocation keeping sparse files enabled to see if there is any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 f there is any difference.There should be. This is the only way it is active... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS2000 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 System: Windows 8 64bituTorrent version: Last Stable (3.3 29625)Every time I start downloading something big, or many small files (4-6Gb each), uTorrents goes in Disk Overload 100% and stops downloading anything (actually it does not stop completely, but the download speed becomes so slow that It is almost irrelevant). The only thing I can do when uTorrent does this is restart it and hope that It does not do it again.The problems becomes impossible to handle for very big files (60-100Gb+). In that case, It is impossible to me to download anything. (Even restarting uTorrent, it is always stuck on Disk Overload) I have tried EVERYTHING. Changing cache size, disabling cache, disabling-enabling pre-allocation, disabling my Internet Security, reinstalling uTorrent, using another disk (I have 6 HDDs, it does NOT matter which one I'm downloading to), using another operating system (I tried with Windows 7 32bit), using another version of uTorrent (I tried all the 3.3 releases, 3.2.3 and even 2.2.1!). The problem is ALWAYS the same.What can I do?!Update: When uTorrent goes in Disk Overload 100% it stops doing anything, not only downloading. Is it not really pre-allocating files because there is no disk activity what so ever going on.Hi! I also encountered this problem can't understand what's the matter but I noticed one detail if run under the administrator account(built-in), all is well. only I turn on ordinary account the problem of resumes apparently the decision in the security of the system as the built-in administrator account all excellent. if you find a simpler solution let me know:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'm noticing this new strange behavior. As before no disk overload because I have sparse files on, but every 5-10 minutes the download speed goes to 0 for 1 minute. (you can see it in the image, at the end)Note: I'm downloading 2 different torrents from more than 3 seeders, It most be a problem from my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 This new problem does not occur using your settings (except for sparse files enabled of course). I'm in 3.3 by the way. (I cannot use beta versions, they are not allowed on the trackers I use)PSDo you have a list of things you changed in you settings, relative to the default ones? It is clear to me at this point that I should use your settings, but I would love to know more about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 >This new problem does not occur using your settingsGood enough for me... >Do you have a list of things you changedNope, except what you see @my tips, and it's all yours now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Just to interject hereIt is clear to me at this point that I should use your settings, but I would love to know more about them.That should be the case of ANY settings especially the ones from the setup guide. "A tool always works best in the hands of someone who knows how to use it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 System: Windows 8 64bituTorrent version: Last Stable (3.3 29625)Every time I start downloading something big' date=' or many small files (4-6Gb each), uTorrents goes in Disk Overload 100% and stops downloading anything (actually it does not stop completely, but the download speed becomes so slow that It is almost irrelevant). The only thing I can do when uTorrent does this is restart it and hope that It does not do it again.The problems becomes impossible to handle for very big files (60-100Gb+). In that case, It is impossible to me to download anything. (Even restarting uTorrent, it is always stuck on Disk Overload) I have tried EVERYTHING. Changing cache size, disabling cache, disabling-enabling pre-allocation, disabling my Internet Security, reinstalling uTorrent, using another disk (I have 6 HDDs, it does NOT matter which one I'm downloading to), using another operating system (I tried with Windows 7 32bit), using another version of uTorrent (I tried all the 3.3 releases, 3.2.3 and even 2.2.1!). The problem is ALWAYS the same.What can I do?!Update: When uTorrent goes in Disk Overload 100% it stops doing anything, not only downloading. Is it not really pre-allocating files because there is no disk activity what so ever going on.[/quote']Hi! I also encountered this problem can't understand what's the matter but I noticed one detail if run under the administrator account(built-in), all is well. only I turn on ordinary account the problem of resumes apparently the decision in the security of the system as the built-in administrator account all excellent. if you find a simpler solution let me know:)Very interesting! Thanks! I don't know how to help you, I'm sorry, but I have made a new discovery. If I set uTorrent to run always as Administrator, I have no Disk Overload problem even with sparse files disabled!Tested in uTorrent 3.3.1 beta and rafi's settings. No sparse files enabled. I added 4 torrents (4,8,12 and 18GB) and took these screenshots after a few minutes.uTorrent run as administrator: (all ok)uTorrent run normally (disk overload soon after starting downloading, uTorrent stops downloading)Same results in 3.3 stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I have made a new discovery. I wouldn't call it new, when it is same as SS2000... Interesting - yes... Now, go find out exactly what uT related files of yours are not accessible as regular user... or are protected by your security/AV software. Better yet - uninstall the AV and try again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 I have made a new discovery. I wouldn't call it new' date=' when it is same as SS2000... Interesting - yes... Now, go find out exactly what uT related files of yours are not accessible as regular user... or are protected by your security/AV software. Better yet - uninstall the AV and try again...[/quote']It's new because I did not have to change account. I am running an Administrator account. I just checked the "run this program as an administrator" in the compatibility tab. Uninstall Kaspersky Internet Security you say? Maybe I'll try. (quitting it doesn't change a thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Uninstall Kaspersky Internet Security you say? That is what I said, yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailAlistair Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Uninstall Kaspersky Internet Security you say? That is what I said' date=' yes...[/quote']Strange. Disk overload but less and it does start downloading normally after some minutes. This is without Kas, but with Windows Defender and Windows Firewall active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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