Beasly Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 DaveUTAdministrator wrote:I pulled 29930 as it was crashing too much.Wow! You guys really need to get your sh*t together...Releasing and immediately pulling your fixes is becoming the norm lately. It's probably a good time to put a "Devs for Hire" ad in your local papers classified section.DaveUTAdministrator wrote:On Monday will work on it and get another build out as quick as we can.Why is there a need to rush these fixes!...Slow down and release proper builds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 DaveUTAdministrator wrote:I pulled 29930 as it was crashing too much.Wow! You guys really need to get youir sh*t together...Releasing and immediately pulling your fixes is becoming the norm lately. No matter how much resilience testing is done with debug builds, developers cannot cover every possible environment, and 'bug fixes' often have 'unfortunate' effects that cannot be anticipated.Take Windows 'Me' and Vista as examples, many fundamental 'issues' in both of those were not found until people had PAID to be 'mass RC' testers (although Microsoft prefer to call them customers).And it might be wise to leave the disaster called "Windows 8" out of the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beasly Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 No matter how much resilience testing is done with debug builds, developers cannot cover every possible environment, and 'bug fixes' often have 'unfortunate' effects that cannot be anticipated.I just question the Devs ability to understand various facets of the many operating systems and their coding into utorrent to harmonize with each!Making the same mistakes over and over is somewhat a sign of insanity!Maybe it's their rush mentality that they think they have to release fixes just to make the swarms of people think they are actively updating the software...I really hope that is not the case.In any event all applications are now being accepted at Bittorrent incs. main office in San Fran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryrynz Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 No matter how much resilience testing is done with debug builds, developers cannot cover every possible environment, and 'bug fixes' often have 'unfortunate' effects that cannot be anticipated.Yeah.. I don't know what other software besides uTorrent your testing but this is not my experience AT ALL with beta and alpha software, I'm about ready to give up following this. Maybe things might get interesting when they release a paid version, how many years away is anybody's guess, maybe that'll kickstart some actual delevopment.3.4 should be out next year sometime, might check back then -yawn- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Maybe it's their rush mentality that they think they have to release fixes just to make the swarms of people think they are actively updating the software...I really hope that is not the case.I have said a couple of time that I don't see what the frenetic pace of 'development' is about, but it is certtainly not about quality control.Yeah.. I don't know what other software besides uTorrent your testing but this is not my experience AT ALL with beta and alpha software, I'm about ready to give up following this. uTorrent is the only software (from people I don't know personally) that I do any alpha or beta testing on these days.Don't have the space for rack mount 'lab rat' machines, or the inclination to have multiple VMs set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duytrung Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Download the new version hereMain focus of µTorrent 3.3.2: - Stability and bugfixesChangelog:--2013-7-12: Version 3.3.2 beta (build 29930)- Fix: When a .torrent-file gets downloaded and renamed from a magnet link and you cancel the Add New Torrent-dialog. it doesn't remove the .torrent-file.- Fix: Multiple crashes in internal IE frame- Fix: Crash in autoupdate progress dialog on XP (removed dialog completely on all platforms)- Fix: Removed program location and moved checkboxes up on Install Options installer screen.--2013-6-13: Version 3.3.2 beta (build 29806)- Fix: Crash when featured content pane is selected and offer clicked- Fix: Properly attribute clicks to correct window within client--2013-6-05: Version 3.3.2 beta (build 29786)- Fix: Installer fails to shut down running client during upgrade--2013-6-03: Version 3.3.2 beta (build 29772)- Fix: Crashes related to new offer display code--2013-05-28: Version 3.3.2 beta (build 29742)- Initial Beta launch for 3.3.2I tried to download newer version 29930 but file is still on version 3.3.2 Beta 29806, not 29930 as stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I tried to download newer version 29930 but file is still on version 3.3.2 Beta 29806, not 29930 as stated above.I pulled 29930 as it was crashing too much. Sorry for that. On Monday will work on it and get another build out as quick as we can.I guess changing that in the main download page - couldn't have heart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20021969 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 There is no tray icon AGAIN with 3.3.2.29944.Please fix this irritating bug. It was bad enough in the last few 3.3.1 builds, now it's crept over into 3.3.2 :mad:(Going back to 3.3.2.29806 and hey presto, tray icon is back. Windows XP SP3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Well lets be fair, XP is a TWELVE YEAR OLD operating system for which service pack support has ended and will reach "End of Life" in a little under eight months, UNLESS you want to pay M$ for the privilege.So it's not that surprising that there are problems and why should developers support what is essentialy a dead operating system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 and why should developers support what is essentialy a dead operating system.Becuase it says so in the system requirements : http://www.utorrent.com/help/faq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20021969 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 So it's not that surprising that there are problemsLike I said, with the previous 3.3.2.29806 beta, tray icon IS THERE.It's a bug, and has nothing to do with XP being X amount of years old.(To clarify, the tray icon is INVISBLE and occupying a space. Hovering cursor over it shows uTorrents details). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It's a bug, and has nothing to do with XP being X amount of years old.No, it's caused by using newer image formats that are NOT supported by an ancient operating system! The empty space is the equivalent of the "red 'x'" for missing or unsupported images in web browsers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20021969 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 No, it's caused by using newer image formats that are NOT supported by an ancient operating system! Would that be the (ancient ) .ico format?Are you seriously suggesting the "image format" is being changed between certain 3.3.1 betas/stable and 3.3.2 betas, so that some display the icon and some do not?? Even the current alpha shows an icon (edit: latest one doesn't. It must have been a previous alpha I was trying but removed when I noticed that the pause button had gone).The current 3.3.1 does not, but the vast majority of previous versions do (since the introduction of the updated icon back in February). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 the "image format" is beingn changed between certain 3.3.1 betas and 3.3.2 betas?? lolyes... @build 29163 http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=138464Let's hope they'll fix this regression in one of the next builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20021969 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 the "image format" is beingn changed between certain 3.3.1 betas and 3.3.2 betas?? lolyes... @build 29163 http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=138464I know that a new uTorrent icon was introduced:http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=712690#p712690I've had no problems with the new icon on the vast majority of releases since it's introduction. It's works without problem.That doesn't explain why the tray icon is invisible on only certain releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 That doesn't explain why it is invisible on only certain releases.You can read all about it from "experts" in the appropriate thread... http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=739958#p739958 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20021969 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Let's hope they'll fix this regression in one of the next builds.+1.It's not the end of the world that's it "broke" in this latest beta version :/I'm just alerting a developer (hopefully) about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Has been already alerted in that thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20021969 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Has been already alerted in that thread... Thanks. I completely missed that thread :cool:(The tray.ico fix worked for me, although I created my own icon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Are you seriously suggesting the "image format" is being changed between certain 3.3.1 betas/stable and 3.3.2 betas, so that some display the icon and some do not??Actually .ico is not strictly a 'format', but is a container for images in other formats and it is some of the content images that is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Moving from 3.3.1 29812 to 3.3.2 - resulted in loosing my search engines/links list For you too? (backup your 3.3.1 settings.dat!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justmatt Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 So what I'm reading is there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to update from my 3.3.1 (29812) version. The only problem I have with 29812 (the non-deletion of .torrent files) isn't fixed in this build, and a whole host of potential new problems are introduced? Pass."Remove and delete .torrent" will fail to delete torrent file. I guess it was fixed in 3.4. Let's hope they'll back-port it to 3.3.x .It's fixed in the 3.4 Alpha, I finally tested it, but there are SO MANY other issues with that Alpha that I'd rather just deal with the non-deletion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 I see that topic about abnormal RAM consumtion is closed( http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=132524 )1. Where is actual discussion about this problem? In this topic?2. Please fix this problem. uTorrent versions 3.3 & 3.3.1 are unusable due to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 new beta keeps having this popping up why?? (Build: 29944 and previous build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 abnormal RAM consumtion is closedMaybe there is no such issue? Maybe it is all related to how much RAM-cache you've allowed to use in your advanced-cache->settings? You are welcome to my setting with ~150M RAM max total, ~40M typical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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