utorrent dev should look into TuoTu client

if you dont know, TuoTu client is a new bt client currently only available in Chinese,

website: http://www.tuotu.com/download/download.asp

see this thread for more info:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=369072

malaysian users were not able to BT for the last 2 months because the only ISP in malaysia has aggressively throttle the lines, but someone discovers the TuoTu client and it is able to bypass the throttling, now the speed is back to maximum for malaysians, i hope utorrent dev implement the same feature in utorrent to include whatever feature in TuoTu that enable it to bypass the throttling, thank you.

utorrent, bitcomet, azureus, bitspirit, none of the clients could get pass the throttling, TuoTu is the FIRST one that able to do it.

download TuoTu client zip version here:

http://www.tuotu.com/install/Tuotu-2.1.0.61.zip

no installation needed, 100% clean, no spyware.

Get it in English so you actually can try it out.

i am using it right now download at full speed, with utorrent (encryption everything enabled) i get only 10Kb/s, bitcomet is worst, less than 2Kb/s.

see this screenie:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?s=d5ad6b3a8b177cb434086c2c554c7bc9&act=Attach&type=post&id=155652

does it looks like its using UDP NAT transveral?

and whats this KAD/ED at the bottom...

DEFINITELY UDP packets in use...in one screen I saw, the different peers are either s_UDP or d_UDP...rest are TCP.

All I gotta say is if you think problems with D-Link routers are bad now...UDP for file transfers will be far worse.

and whats this KAD/ED at the bottom...

Kademlia / Edonkey maybe

hmm.. this is very intersting indeed..

I tried it and I can confirm here that the throttle bypass is real

whatever the ingredient it is, the cooking's does delivered.

come on, can we have some professionals look into this...?

It's back to the same set of problems...the reason why µTorrent doesn't already have UDP NAT hole-punching is due to complexities in making it work. And having another program that does it...doesn't really help that without its source code in hand in a useable form that ludde can use.

In other words, very well-documented source code in English or his native language.

I was lucky in that I was a beta-tester for BearShare back when they were implimenting UDP NAT hole-punching for it. So I actually know a little bit about how it works. However even in the "final" form it was implimented, it still had immense problems with duplicate ips, 0.0.0.0 ip, wrong ports, failure to connect due to firewalls besides the ones in routers, and the occassional networking bugs to boot.

UDP NAT

what is so special about UDP NAT? can the ISP block it too when they find out that the users are using p2p? or it is not possible to block?

thanks.

For one thing, from what kurahashi said here, one might assume it's because the pattern detection might be getting thrown off, but I'm not familiar with the internals of how either client are working, so I can't say with certainty. Could also be NAT traversal-like behavior at work.

It might not be too hard for ISPs to start throttling ALL UDP traffic to 10 KB/sec or less. And that would nearly kill UDP file transfers even before lots of people get that feature.

It might not be too hard for ISPs to start throttling ALL UDP traffic to 10 KB/sec or less. And that would nearly kill UDP file transfers even before lots of people get that feature.

Not quite. Many games are using UDP and such throttling would (probably) kill them off. The fact is

we have an arms race here, looks like TuoTu with its UDP transfers is one step forward but for how long - time will tell.

I tried it, but couldn't find any English version. I tried running the tcpcrack and it rebooted me without warning. Thanks a lot! I was also able to start a torrent (in English), but still could only dl at under 10k. My ISP I believe switches users to a dedicated low bw server, so I don't see any way to get around that. They actually disconnect users from the main service first.

I then found that the partial music files were placed in 2 separate directories, and just viewing these directories floods memory, even with the client closed. What's going on there?

Gotta love that forum link provided.

They even have an ad for this sort of shit.

http://www.downloadsglobe.com/utorrent/?gclid=CJPp7vGz3YgCFSRjWAoduwcJpQ

imho you should beware of TuoTu... might be working...but god knows what kind of disaster is hidden inside it.

...and without the sourcecode documented completely and thoroughly in English so ludde can code something similar into µTorrent, the program itself is of little help except for interrogating handshakes for UDP file-transfers.

Reverse-engineering that would be a nightmare.

I'm a user of TuoTu too...uTorrent with PE enabled only can get 10kb/s speed..but TuoTu can reach 60kb/s o_O...but the client sometime is unstable...sometime will connection to tracker timeout

are they using an open protocol for doing that? Seems like a great feature

Another user of Toutu here, it works like a charm. With utorrent i couldn't get more than 15kb/s of download or upload speed, and now depending on the torrent i can get more than 150kb/s of dl and use all my upload bandwidth.

As GameSky says, the client is unstable but as long as it bypasses the throttling i don't care.

All i know is that although its in chinese (which, although i ethnically am, but cannot read chinese properly) as long as its faster, iits fine with me - i usually won't bother with checking help files of programs - they usually cooperate with me .

avast reported trojan in the zip file submitted by kimmchii (post #3)although the exe file from the download link in post #1 doesnt have that problem